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Date Posted: 08:36:53 09/18/11 Sun
Author: john
Subject: Re: The Priesthood Scam
In reply to: Lois 's message, "Re: The Priesthood Scam" on 10:43:38 09/17/11 Sat

and how and why does that matter Lois?

john

>>A man who makes $42,000 a year working in a hardware
>>store is called to the priesthood. After taxes, he has
>>a net income of 33,000, so he pays $3,300 to the
>>church to make himself elibible for the priesthood.
>>So he has $29,000 to live on. Ever after, if he wants
>>to keep his priesthood card, he will have to pay ten
>>percent of his income to the church.
>>
>>A man who is a paid employee of the church priesthood
>>(in a position requiring ordination) makes $50,000 a
>>year. After taxes, he has $40,500 net income, so he
>>pays 4,050 dollars to the church so that he can keep
>>his priesthood, so that he will continue to be
>>eligible to keep his job. He has $36,450 left to live
>>on. But priests in the Restored Church are not
>>supposed to be paid for their efforts -- as witnessed
>>by the Book of Mormon. So, what has actually happened
>>is that the man has received a $50,000 grant from the
>>church. He isn't supposed to be paid, so the money is
>>not income. If he has no other job, then he really has
>>not earned any money. So he has merely funneled $4,050
>>back to the church out of the "grant" that he
>>received. There is no tithe involved here. The man is
>>simply a parasite on the back of the church.
>>
>>If you are having to tithe out of income from a real
>>job, you are by no means a member of the elite in the
>>CofC. You are giving them ten percent of your money.
>>The paid priesthood member is only giving 10% of the
>>church's money back to it, so the church realizes a
>>loss from this man's membership in the church and in
>>the priesthood.
>>
>>The man working in the hardware store contributed
>>$3300 a year to the upkeep of the church as a
>>condition keeping of his priesthood.
>>
>>The paid member of the hierarchy pays less than
>>nothing to the upkeep of the church. Every year that
>>he is a member and a member of the priesthood, the
>>church realizes a $45,950 loss. Even the taxes he paid
>>on his free money were paid with free money from the
>>church.
>>
>>I call it "free money," because if other members of
>>the priesthood are having to work with no
>>compensation, then priesthood office is considered to
>>be a membership privilege for which one pays dues. The
>>hierarch in the church pays no dues. The church is
>>paying all his bills, and he "contributes" only those
>>services that those who are not as clever as he are
>>required to pay for the privilege of doing.
>>
>>Why is there this dichotomy in the church? Looks like
>>just another part of the scam to me. But, as I stated,
>>the paid members of the hierarchy are ecclesiastical
>>politicians, and politicians are known for ripping
>>everybody else off.
>>
>>George
>
> >href="http://www.cofchrist.org/news/2010/june/IntoTheFu
>ture-Veazey.pdf">http://www.cofchrist.org/news/2010/jun
>e/IntoTheFuture-Veazey.pdf
>
>These comments are among the closing remarks delivered
>June 6 by President Stephen M. Veazey to the World
>Church Finance Board in Independence, Missouri. They
>focus on the dire need to improve giving to World
>Ministries Mission Tithes and his hope for the church.
>
>Into the Future
>By Stephen M. Veazey, church president
>
>"After that, I had a chance to briefly see many World
>Service Corps volunteers who are leaving on their
>summer assignments. The World Service Corps is one of
>our most-successful, young-adult ministries.
>
>Do the participants and supporters of that program
>understand it is funded by World Ministries Mission
>Tithes? How do we make that connection in the minds of
>young adults so they will become tithing contributors!
>It can be done if we apply our creative efforts to the
>need."
>--------
>
>I wonder how many of those young adults are the
>offspring of church appointees?
>
>Submitted by Lois
>
> >href="http://www.cofchrist.org/news/2010/june/IntoTheFu
>ture-Veazey.pdf">http://www.cofchrist.org/news/2010/jun
>e/IntoTheFuture-Veazey.pdf
>
>Steve Veazey says it again, "Another nonnegotiable for
>me is priesthood support of World Ministries Mission
>Tithes.
>Soon, we will put in place an administrative policy
>that will state clearly that we will not approve the
>ordinations of people whose understanding of the
>gospel and ordained ministry does not include
>awareness and support of the worldwide ministries of
>the church through tithing. We�ve had way too much
>drift in local congregations and mission centers on
>this matter."

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Replies:

Re: The Priesthood Scam -- George, 11:34:31 09/18/11 Sun
- Re: The Priesthood Scam -- john, 20:30:08 09/19/11 Mon
  - Re: The Priesthood Scam -- George, 20:32:16 09/19/11 Mon