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Date Posted: 09:04:05 04/22/11 Fri
Author: George
Subject: Re: Restoration Scriptures
In reply to: john 's message, "Re: Restoration Scriptures" on 08:09:10 04/22/11 Fri

>George;
>
>you might be surprised what you can really find out
>about a person if you choose to discourse with them
>congenially, even if you disagree with them or dislike
>organizations to which they are attached. you might
>even find out that you could come to like some of
>those people.
>
>i wont address your questions because of the
>statements of assumption and the obtuse attack in the
>last paragraph. it would appear that your mind is
>made up about me and about the church. no matter how
>i respond it will be used only as a platform from
>which to launch some other tirade (i am certain we
>will see another shortly after you read my response)...
>
>now that i have finished posting the daily lenten
>scripture readings here i think it may be time for me
>to knock the dust from my sandals and head on... i am
>certain that you and lois will not consider it a loss.
>
>john

John, I'm not surprised that you will not answer and that you blame your refusal on us. The great loss is that you want to contribute so badly, but your association with the Community of Christ makes it impossible to do so. I am sad about this, because you are a nice person. However, the connection of someone like you with the CofC is analogous to that of a Home for Wayward Girls with unwise business associations with a Nevada Brothel. Despite whatever good intentions and spiritual benevolence you possess, no one who understands the external association you have can trust you on spiritual matters.

I just don't understand why you could not bring yourself to post a single scripture from the official and recognized scriptures of your own faith. That is confusion enough for me.

But the information that I provided about the priest is true. Until those things are dealt with, the CofC cannot move on. You may not realize it, but the CofC is like the U.S. government. It wants to go forward and do many beneficial and good things, but it refuses to deal with the heavy debts, spritual and financial, respectively that are a ball and chain to its performance of its duties. The spritual credit rating of the CofC feel even before the financial credit rating of the U.S. government, and for the same reason: obsessive and excessive pandering to interests inimical to its own existence.

I heard an interview with a Congresswoman on TV the other day. She was bold and progressive, and wanted to "invest in our future." The interviewer asked her, "With what? We are worse than broke -- we are trillions in debt." Until the leaders of the U.S., like tjhose of the CofC, wake up to reality of how they got themselves and everyone else into the mess we're in, there will be no visionary leadership or advancement into the future of God's great cause. There will only be confusion, distrust, and desperation.

George

>
>
>>>nice scripture byte...
>>>
>>>i bet you and i see these groups quite differently.
>>>
>>>210 And it came to pass that the angel spake unto me,
>>>Nephi, saying, Thou hast beheld that if the
>>>Gentiles repent, it shall be well with them;
>>>211 And thou also knowest concerning the covenants of
>>>the Lord unto the house of Israel;
>>>212 And thou also hast heard, that whoso repenteth
>>>not, must perish;
>>>213 Therefore, wo, be unto the Gentiles, if it so be
>>>that they harden their hearts against the Lamb
>>>of God;
>>>214 For the time cometh, saith the Lamb of God, that
>I
>>>will work a great and a marvelous work
>>>among the children of men;
>>>215 A work which shall be everlasting, either on the
>>>one hand or on the other;
>>>216 Either to the convincing of them unto peace and
>>>life eternal, or unto the deliverance of them
>>>to the hardness of their hearts and the blindness of
>>>their minds, unto their being brought down
>>>into captivity and also unto destruction, both
>>>temporally and spiritually, according to the
>>>captivity of the devil, of which I have spoken.
>>>217 And it came to pass that when the angel had
>spoken
>>>these words, he said unto me, Remember
>>>thou the covenants of the Father unto the house of
>>>Israel?
>>>218 I said unto him, Yea.
>>>
>>>john

>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>For the time cometh, saith the Lamb of God, that I
>>>>will work a great and a marvelous work among the
>>>>children of men; A work which shall be everlasting,
>>>>either on the one hand or on the other; Either to
>the
>>>>convincing of them unto peace and life eternal, or
>>>>unto the deliverance of them to the hardness of
>their
>>>>hearts and the blindness of their minds, unto their
>>>>being brought down into captivity and also unto
>>>>destruction, both temporally and spiritually,
>>>>according to the captivity of the devil, of which I
>>>>have spoken. 1 Nephi 3:214-216
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>-Mamusz
>>
>>John, I wouldn't be surprised if you viewed them
>>differently. After all, you say you don't even use the
>>Inspired Version. That right there indicates that you
>>have a very, very different view of the Restoration
>>scriptures than I do.
>>
>>Do you ever use the Book of Mormon?
>>
>>I got the impression that the CofC wants to pretend
>>that the Book of Mormon and the Inspired Version don't
>>exist, or that they are like Wycliff's bible and have
>>become obsolete.
>>
>>One of the priests who had been silenced and run off
>>from Fairbanks, Tx branch told me that before he had
>>been silenced, he had been instructed as part of a
>>group not to mention the Book of Mormon to anybody who
>>didn't actually belong to the church already. And this
>>was in 1986, right before the Book of Mormon stopped
>>being the foundation of the restored church, and
>>became "auxilliary scripture" kept in the trunk unless
>>someone needed to fix whatever historic Biblical
>>doctrine that the liberals considered flat.
>>
>>George

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Re: Restoration Scriptures -- Lois, 10:24:16 04/22/11 Fri

Re: Restoration Scriptures -- George, 16:15:36 04/22/11 Fri