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Date Posted: 20:36:36 03/19/11 Sat
Author: Geprge
Subject: Re: How Many Christs are in the Bible?
In reply to: Lois 's message, "Re: How Many Christs are in the Bible?" on 19:09:59 03/19/11 Sat

>>We have met with a plethora of "christs" in
>>Christianity lately.
>>
>>I have found three of them in the Bible (besides, of
>>course, Jesus Christ.) All these false christs pass
>>themselves off as the real thing, and often whole
>>denominations go chasing off after them, in the
>>mistaken believe that the Christ they are following is
>>Jesus.
>>
>>Different Christs:
>>
>>Gehazi Christ
>>Gehazi was a cynical, self-serving lowlife who was the
>>servant of a real prophet. Being such a servant with
>>such divine connections, Gehazi decided that he could
>>better his personal portfolio by accepting gifts that
>>had been a freewill offering by Naaman in gratitude
>>for a miraculous cure of leprosy. The real prophet
>>refused the gift, but Gehazi surrepititiously
>>approached Naaman later and said that the prophet had
>>repented and asked clothing and funds to assist lower
>>level mission work.
>>
>>Judas Christ
>>
>>Judas was yet another cynic. He thought that he had
>>the ability to manipulate God himself in order to get
>>the kind of change in the world that Judas thought
>>necessary. He also was not opposed to making a profit
>>while doing it. What tuned me in to the status of
>>Judas as a false christ was Andrew Lloyd Webber and
>>Tim Rice's rock opera "Jesus Christ Superstar," in
>>which Jesus is depicted as being crucified, dead, and
>>buried -- PERIOD -- while Judas returns from the dead
>>after having hanged himself to taunt Jesus
>>rhetorically. Some of Judas' comments about Jesus
>>being foolish to show up in an era predating mass
>>communication seems to echo some of the contempt that
>>the writers of the Position Papers have for the
>>Restoration.
>>
>>It was one of our CofC functionaries who recently gave
>>a glowing recommendation of one of Webber's songs,
>>(not from "Superstar") indicating that it would be
>>spiritually uplifting for any participant on the forum
>>who were to listen to it.
>>
>>Moses Christ
>>The CofC is acutely aware of Moses Christ, the Christ
>>who will save all of us and give us temporal/spiritual
>>blessings if we just follow the Torah to the letter.
>>It has rejected Moses Christ. However, in its rush to
>>do so, it has adopted a false christ who is a
>>composite of both Gehazi Christ and Judas Christ. When
>>you hear pleas for money, ostensibly to spread the
>>gospel of Jesus Christ, when it is actually intended
>>to promote the personal agenda of the homosexual
>>members of the priesthood and homosexual relatives of
>>priesthood members, you hear a hierophant with a
>>familiar spirit who is channeling Gehazi.
>>
>>I have not made a systematic study to find other false
>>christs by name in the scripture. Does anyone here
>>know of any other scriptural figure whose known
>>personal characteristics has been rolled over into a
>>warped description of Jesus, either expressed or
>>demonstrated?
>>
>>George
>
>George,
>
>O.K. I have one. Now I do not want to sully the good
>name of Mr. Rogers, of Mr. Rogers Neighborhood.
>
>see >href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mister_Rogers'_Neigh
>borhood">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mister_Rogers'_Ne
>ighborhood
>
>My children watched Mr. Roger's Neighborhood. He was
>very sweet and calm and explained things to the little
>children. And from all accounts he was the real thing.
>
>But I believe that many people have modeled Jesus
>Christ after Mr. Rogers. Very very sweet. I believe
>that Jesus Christ was very sweet to children. But
>Jesus Christ was a real person, sweet to innocent
>children, and sweet to those with a broken heart and a
>contrite spirit. But he also told the adults bluntly
>how it is. I imagine that Mr. Rogers was more than two
>dimensional, and so is Jesus Christ.

Lois, Mr. Rogers was indeed more than two-dimensional. You never saw him in short sleeves, because before he became a minister, he was a very rough character, and had tattoos up and down both arms. These people who portray characters that are "kind" are multidimensional. Lee Marvin said during a television interview that when he was wounded on Iwo Jima, the hard as nails sergeant who bullied the service into sending him back of the lines for treatment was none other than Bob Keeshan. We know him as Captain Kangaroo. And Jesus is just as multidimensional.

On judgment day, those who expect to find Captain Kangaroo and Mr. Greenjeans are going to get a big surprise. Or perhaps shock.

>
>Jesus is not going to let the souls of mankind get
>away with everything. There is going to be a very rude
>awakening when adults get treated like adults who are
>indeed responsible for their own actions.
>
>In Revelation Jesus Christ is portrayed as having
>scarlet robes after He treads the winepress alone.
>

Sin has consequences, all right. Jesus has said that he is the only way to escape the consequences of sin. He has already done the work. All we have to do is repent and stop doing what we've been doing. When an alcoholic becomes sober, afterwards, he is still an alcoholic. He just doesn't act on that. Those who say that Jesus' atoning sacrifice means that we can all sin without any concern about it do not realize that that is like telling an alcoholic that as long as he goes to AA every night, he can drink "every now and then." Just because there is backsliding, does not mean that it's "o.k.," nor does it mean that one need make no effort to clean up one's act in the first place.

I guess that Paul's comment that it is atrocious for us to keep on sinning so that we can celebrate grace is ignored by modern postChristian players as often as the first chapter of Romans.

George

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Re: How Many Christs are in the Bible? -- George, 20:46:43 03/19/11 Sat