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[> [> You are always the accuser -- Peacock, Sunday, November 02, 08:48:35am [1]

You chide others for not being able to read, but fail time after time because it doesn't fit your view. Go back and read my original post and all have said is I favor a few social programs. No where do I rant against capitalism. I became personal when others initiate, a fact they try to bury in their intellectual mumbo jumbo. However there are those, you among them, who do not have the ability to even balance your views. You hide behind a dictonary of words but post only what passes for truth in the McCain ads. You don't even dissect the so-called targets of your attack. In fact you suborne the untruth as you have shown time and time again and your mode of operation is as a sniper with little to no opinion of your own other than what others have fed you.

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[> [> [> You preach from the ground floor of a 2 story outhouse -- Sludge, Monday, November 03, 08:28:36pm [1]

You expose your hypocrisy every time your lips or, in this case, your fingers move. You bear all of the droppings of the corrupt politicians that have long dominated Hudson County politics. Those same partisans of yours that once championed the right of those from the cemetary to vote, now support those who give multiple park benches as their domicile.

Your hubris does not allow for you to offer a balanced vision. You amuse by defending your bias by suggesting it is only to balance views that you do not agree with. Further, your attempt at retreat from your position is pure
poppycock. You are joined at the hip with your fellow hypocritcs of the left and even those arrogant frauds on the right. The Al Gore's of the world who preach energy conversation to us commoners yet use more energy resource in a day then we would use in a month. The pompus litigator for the people, John Edwards, who lectures on family values yet has a concubine to share in the grief he must feel over his wife's terminal cancer. But, unlike you, who must work hard to assuage any appearance that exposes your bias state of paranoia, I will submit the name of the scoundrel from Alaska, Ted Stevens, who, without abashment or apology, has chosen to use the public treaure as his own.

Your inability to grasp anything of substance is well documented in numerous and scurrilous attempts to profile me as representing the views of McCain. While I certainly consider him the lesser of a more certain evil and, in fact, admire his character and resolve, I do have some serious disagreements with issues such as his silence on immigration, the McCain-Feingold finance folly, as well as his sponsorship of the wasteful and ill-directed education bill with our piteous and pork-dealing Senator, Ted Kennedy.

But why do I talk of anything of meaning with you? You delight and revel in the arena of combat, somehow gaining some perverse pleasure in attacking, demonizing and intimidating the views and opinions of others. This, my friend(s), (association intended), is your makeup.

Have a good evening.

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[> Re: I'll erase anymore dialogue on politics -- Cindy Crawford, Saturday, November 01, 04:50:37pm [1]

Looks like we're getting thrown off the plane too.
Must be more Essense and Jet reporters on the way.

I guess it was my fault for starting all of this...just an attempt originally at a political "cartoon" that touched a raw nerve.
I see little point though in deleting, as there is not much happening yet on the basketball front ,and when there were posts there recently,the threads always degenerated into personal attacks.
If someone chooses not to read the posts of Cella,Sludge,Peackock ,Loyal,SPCfan or me,they can easily do so .
Censorship here,argues as liberal bias against Cella.Let the man have his say. If you don't like it-don't read him.

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[> [> In your behalf -- Sludge, Saturday, November 01, 05:32:13pm [1]

Cindy - Found your original satire very amusing and creative. Unfortunately there are those with delicate sensibilities who argue for the first amendment only when it supports their right to free speech. Only one participant had his feathers ruffled, resulting in the considerable amount of debate that ensued.

Like Big Brother, we must accept that he who holds the ball will decide for us who and how we will play.

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[> [> [> Re: In your behalf -- PS85, Sunday, November 02, 12:29:09am [1]

In true Olbermanesque fashion, the moderator, as with the mainstream, left-wing media, labels those who don't drink the same Kool Aid as the obama-nation being hyped upon us as hypocrits (sic). Well, I'll take the "hypocritical" musings of Cindy, Sludge and Cella over the garbage foisted upon me from some on this board and most of the empty, talking heads in broadcast and print media any day of the week.
Speaking of the demoted one, Mr. Olberman, it's too bad Chuck Knoblauch hit the tree instead of the nut that fell from it.

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[> [> To those who champion the Muslim connection -- Peacock, Sunday, November 02, 09:22:28am [1]

Moderates that you and others are, I appreciate that you call for the need to express more bigotry. We may not have to read it but would you have the same feeling if the comments were anti-Semitic. If you feel Cella's comments don't smack of bigotry and hatred than you don't know what you read. Not one of you researched the history of the Melanie Philips quote to see what kind of right wing nut she is considered in the UK. One need not be of Sludge intelligence to see the hate and distortions behind the rants. Also if you read the posts, the response came not from your cartoon, but from my comments on it. As intelligent as you are, try watching the knee jerks that came to the attack. Sludge tried to make himself the moderate here with his pandering to you, but in essence read his responses and one sees why his handle befits the level he submerges to when parading his attempt at intellectual commentary. Being tolerant of attacks on others when it fits your needs is not laudable but you would blanch at an attack on a very unsubstantiated comment made by you in your post below.

In essence I applaud all this calling for hate and fear by what is suppose to be an educated group. Only PS85 with his grammar school education can be forgiven as he should not be expected to know that more inaccuracies and dirty tactics have come for the McCain talking heads in broadcast and print media than the ones he has accused. In a campaign I expect discussions about issues and plans, and when one side has no clue to either, their partisans resort to what passes for intellectual discourse here. In the end, if even most are right in their hateful feelings, you have only yourself to blame with the choices and selections you have made the last 8 years.

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[> [> [> Re: To those who champion the Muslim connection -- Johnny DiGilio, Monday, November 03, 08:20:17pm [1]

Peacock, you are a disgrace and an ignorant moron to boot!!

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[> Jim " Peacock " Crane's fairness doctrine is upon us. -- John T Cella, Sunday, November 02, 09:07:04am [1]

I have over the years admired your ability to unabashedly attempt to take the moral high ground without justification as demonstrated by this currnet rant filled with personal invictive and puffery. How can you fain disdain for my using this as a bully pulpit when that it exactly what you have done for years. At least my opinions are reasoned reflection grounded in fact. To comply with the specifics of your edict let me clearly state that while I have generally considered you to be an ass, you have elevated yourself to a new level of stupidity that I doubt even you can exceed but then you can still vote for BO and Biden. How can you respect a state's electorate that sends a Joe Biden back to the US Senate election after election. CindyC's post was as inspired as loyal peacock's retort was grounded in ignorance. I was merely trying to be instructive. Hugs and kisses, John p.s. I do not consider my mention of BO and/or Biden a political statement but merely a reflection on the limits your intellecutual capacity.

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[> [> John, we need not discuss your feelings -- Peacock, Sunday, November 02, 09:33:58am [1]

Being the consummate bigot that you have expressed time and time again it is easy to understand your love for me. I state this from personal conversations with you and not the smear tactics you bring forth. I would love to hear your discussion of the black race which you have so many times told me of their inferiorty. Even on a lighter note, lets here about your generous feeling to our alma mater after you were offended by school. Your substance and facts are much like Sludge's intellegence, nothing more than all the residue left over after all the useful ingrediants have been removed.

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[> [> [> ho....hum........ -- John T Cella, Sunday, November 02, 10:08:02am [1]

You are a perfect liberal. Inventing issues and slurs as easily as you turn your back on the truth.

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