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Date Posted: 11:02:04 01/05/11 Wed
Author: stewart
Subject: Re: CA - lightbulbs
In reply to: BC 's message, "CA - lightbulbs" on 08:15:06 01/05/11 Wed

Well BC California needs to get back to setting a good example and I'm glad of this mandate. Of course there will always be those who cry Government control and the government has no right telling us what to do. However those folk need to live in pre pollution control LA or drink water from a superfund sites runoff. There has been much resistance recently form those wishing to scale back pollution controls and environmental regulation. Recent history is filled with profit driven disregard of communities health by Business. It's great to see how many in my area are going to solar and storing rainwater. Years ago what they are now doing would be called tree hugging or being a greeny. It's now however about saving resources and saving money. Some of the most conservative in my region have started adopting these methods primarily because it saves them MONEY. When it can be proved that these methods are not only good for the environment but save money people are quick to jump onboard. Yes even those who flinch at government involvement in their lives are lining up to take advantage of rebates and tax incentives offered for adopting these new technologies. It's almost humorous to hear them now talking about how much they turned their meter back from using the sun or how much rainwater they've collected in the recent storms.
Look lately at those complaining about the recent new food control measures. It took China et al poisoning us and our pets to make people understand food controls are necessary to stop those feeding us considering only their bottom line. I'm amazed when people travel in the third world with all of its uncontrolled pollution and return here that they could ever say that these sorts of measures aren't in the best interests of the populace.
Yes I've always been a greeny since I was a boy growing up with the dumps left behind by BHP in my home town of Broken Hill. The dust blowing of those dumps was often filled with lead tailings and it collected in our houses and on everything whenever the desert winds blew. Scientists actually came up with plants to grow on those dumps to control the runoff and dust problem. A greenbelt was formed around the town way before anything like this happened to keep the desert from consuming the town. It was called the Regeneration belt or the GEN as it was known to us children who would "Trespass" into in for adventures. It became like a huge natural playground at really no one cared that we were running around in it more that any livestock were not. I've seen what deforestation can do firsthand as all the available wood in our area was used up for fuel or early mining. The mulga trees only started to come back in the gen in my lifetime. In my area of Cali today you can easily tell those properties that overgraze their cattle. There is nothing on those hills save a few oaks that lived there prior and have watched for years the immediate consumption of anything that sprang from their acorns . It's a delicate balance that is easy to affect and sometimes those effects aren't seen for a lifetime. Oaks take many years to grow and many years to die. One of the former residents of my area decided to grade his property illegally and destroyed many ancient oaks. Eventually as a community we banded together to stop him. His arrogance was extreme and ,though forced to stop, the impact of his handiwork will not be repaired in three lifetimes let alone mitigated but the few small trees he was ordered to plant. I find sometimes there are those, who for whatever reason, justify owning a piece of ground as the mandate to do with it as they will disregarding common sense and plowing ahead literally, knowing its cheaper to beg for forgiveness than ask for permission. In fact some even factor court costs into their budget prior knowing they will come out in front if they just do it. It has nothing to do with stewardship of the land more about how much can I make and how quickly can I do it.It's myopic and completely self interested at best.
I'm sorry BC that the eco bulbs cost so much where you are. They are often on sale here and subsidized. Some are really expensive like LED spots but the small fluros are usually cheap. Hope you continue to try to replace them. Love on Ya Stewart

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[> Re: CA - lightbulbs -- Neeney, 11:49:38 01/05/11 Wed

Well said, and I agree with you totally. That's really awful about the resident of your area. People don't think or don't care about how their actions effect others.



Neeney


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[> [> Re: CA - lightbulbs -- JennOk, 14:52:10 01/07/11 Fri

One thing I think is interesting with the environment, etc. is that 20 years ago when I started teaching and had been in northern CA I used to do a whole unit on recycling, saving the environment, Earth Day, etc. and there were a lot of resources. Then it seemed that all kind of disappeared that people kind of forgot about keeping the Earth healthy. It seems sad to me that we "sat around" for the last decade or so and didn't make a lot of "significant" changes. So I"m glad people are more focused on the environment, but hope we see greater strides. It scares me when I watch so many documentaries about the trouble our Earth is in. Hopefully we can all make enough changes in time to stop some of the issues our Earth and our future is facing. We have florescents and bought them when we build this house. I wish we lived on an acreage where we had enough room for our own wind turbine, this fall I bought a couple of rain barrels to use this next summer. Anyway, it is definitely sad what happened around your hometown Stewart. I would be nice if people looked at the mistakes others have made and actually change because it is the right thing to do, not just to make our save money.


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