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Date Posted: 15:50:52 06/15/02 Sat
Author: Michael
Author Host/IP: NoHost / 66.112.45.91
Subject: Re: Logical Proof of God?
In reply to: Patrick 's message, "Logical Proof of God?" on 01:07:38 06/15/02 Sat

a very interesting post i really enjoyed reading..

what you wrote cant be argued with in the context it is written because you are making assumptions that may not be based on fact or truth.
#1. i do not agree this is a fact or true..{no proof}
part of this is true or fact but part may not be..{no proof}
#2. HUH!!!? please explain does not compute..
#3.this if you will look at it from a scientific standpoint is changing because with advances in astronomy we are seeing farther and farther into space so at this time we cannot reasonably say this is true or fact..{not enough proof}
#4. you can make any assumption on anything from the final outcome and when speaking in paradoxes you are assuming true information....{just because something exsists doesnt mean a set of instructions made it}{the word instructions implies forthought when a more correct word might be explaination}
#6.again the word instructions implies forthought{you are prophetatizing instead of argueing resonably...
#7.a belief you have with no proof{i do not believe this is a true statement}
#8.-#10. come on atleast act like you have a open mind without preaching things with no basis in fact...{by this anology the statements on the planet earth only man is rational.. no woman is a man.. therefore no woman is rational... would be true statements... but the use of the word man is in two contexts so i am not making true statements but it is logical and was believed for centuries}
#11.a falsehood proving the preceeding falsehoods{still no proof}
#12.-#15. more false assumptions made with no proof just your beliefs....

as i said i really enjoyed this post it proves my point that religion is bad for the world....
this post was very well written and very well thoughtout but you have no proof of any of your claims and it is obvious you are aware of this fact but your words will fool alot of simple minded people into believing this is proof....
for thousands of years man believed baths would kill you..
man believed cats were creatures of satan and killed them on sight{hence the black plague from rat fleas}..
man burnt people at the stake because of differing beliefs..
man killed man not only for survival but just because another man said they believed false gods..

is there a god{i donot believe so}
but i as well have no proof either way....

i only know one thing for fact and that is as long as man keeps killing man because of a GOD then religion is not a good thing and should be banned on penalty of death{self defense for the rest of us}
morals is another matter
morality is not from god but is instead is a learned response to people living together...
if your not moral your a danger to everyone else and that must not be allowed for it creates chaos....
is there a god
what is god
where did god come from by your post
does god care
does anybody else care
how many gods are there millions or just the christian god
why is the christian god better than the arab god considering both side agree its the same god
maybe god is a cat
maybe god doesnt exsist
maybe the gods take turns being god

i have no proof either way

you must rely on faith to believe in god
i have more faith in myself than in your god who kills other people just because there god isnt acceptable

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