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Date Posted: 07:18:20 05/02/02 Thu
Author: Cat
Author Host/IP: NoHost / 156.63.134.4
Subject: Am I missing something here................

Ron went to see his heppie pal last night. And this guy (who has been know to tell a whopper or two), told Ron that he went to see a Hepatologist at one of the local hospitals. He said that this quack told him that because his viral load has not increased (he is under 2000, he has only had HCV for 6 - 8 months, best any of us can figure), that he is only a CARRIER. Now, how in the hell could you have a viral load at all and just be a carrier???? Is that possible? AND, he said this doctor told him that since he is only a CARRIER, that he doesn't need to worry about it at all.

No this all smells to high heaven to me. Am I stupid or is Rons friend either lying or the doctor is full of shit? Someone please enlighten me.

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[> This Guy is Either Into -- Susie, 07:30:18 05/02/02 Thu (bgp425870bgs.union01.nj.comcast.net/68.36.197.75)

Bigtime denial, or he is high on something or his doc is an idgit!!


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[> [> Knowing him, it could be all three. -- Cat, 10:15:04 05/02/02 Thu (NoHost/156.63.134.4)


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[> Nope, the doc is missing something... -- Junobear, 08:04:15 05/02/02 Thu (216-220-251-7.midmaine.com/216.220.251.7)

Susie hit the nail on the head...

Lots of docs are woefully behind the times when it comes to state of the art advice and treatment of this disease. The term 'carrier' has been a bit passe for years...

Either:

1. The doctor is dumber than a box of rocks; or

2. The doctor gave him good information but he's tuning out most of it and 'hearing what he wants to hear' to have an excuse to continue drinking or drugging without having to worry about this; or

3. Diagnosis shocked him and he needs to be in denial for awhile -- but with a bit of gentle help from you and Ron, he will pass through the denial, start reading and educating himself, stand up and start to deal; or

4. He lied to Ron about what the doctor said because he figured Ron would nag him to deal with something [drinking, drugging or having this and dealing with it?] that he doesn't have the strength to deal with right now.

None of us with this disease has 'nothing' to worry about. We all need to 'worry' about taking care of our livers by not drinking or drugging. 'Infected in the last 6-8 months' sounds like recent IV drug use to me.'

Sounds like big time De-Nile [de river in Egypt] to me. Good luck blasting a person who wants to continue to drink or drug or be in denial out of 'de river' when he's bound and determined to swim in it.


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[> [> This dude was in big time denial at first. -- Cat, 10:20:31 05/02/02 Thu (NoHost/156.63.134.4)

And yes, Ron and I both have been on his ass, about facts, about what not to do, about doctors being full of crap (some of them) and on and on. Ron wanted him to go see his doctor but instead he (his friend) weanied out and saw someone else who handed him that bunch of shit. And, he would just love to believe that.


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[> Re: Am I missing something here....I heard same story 25 years ago. I shoulda run. -- sg, 09:42:17 05/02/02 Thu (Toronto-HSE-ppp3661737.sympatico.ca/65.95.149.110)


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