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Date Posted: 14:33:41 09/09/00 Sat
Author: steve
Subject: let me spell this out...and if I sound condensending, don't be troubled with it...I am ten times harder on myself then I am on anyone else...
In reply to: Brain 's message, "Re: "my movement, you do not yet comprehend, what have you shown people, I did not attack you"" on 10:06:52 09/09/00 Sat

As I said...you fail to comprehend...when I say my movement, I mean just that, not the movement of my will over others...the movement of my will to empower myself...
Heaven and hell(paradise and perdition)are to fold, they are material, and they are spirtitual...we as individuals have little control over the material, for the force of the artificial control mongers which we both distain has control over the material...every revolution that has sought to bring about some form of utopia has become what it devoured...in this sense, the catch phrase, 'you are what you eat' is true...this is because the spiritual self, the mind and coscious escense, rains over the material world...for what we see, now, and seek to create all depends on perception. Perception is formed from the center of our being and our eexperince. The reason we have failed is while the material world encounters great change, we find little spritual, or self if you are an athiest, progression...the material world changes, what we no changes, yet people fail to change...they fail to change for good reason. The process of control was put in fasion as the social glue to hold togther society...it was wrought from an under devoloped. ignorant, and unenlightened human nature that is closer to a process of applying reason to instinct then letting pure reason evolve and rule on it's own. This process of finite control is self sustaining, through indocternation it lives on, generation after genration, and is ingrained with in us, it produces mass thought, mass logic, and massive limitations, instead of infinite self control, which produces individual logic, individual thought, and so on. Until we find this on a massive level, which individuals must find with in themsevles, we will have no realistic sustained change...control will always be necassary as long as we remain unenlightened of true self. You cannot open peoples eyes to this through combat, force them to see it and agree with it, or through breaking them down intellectually...you must find it within yourself, and display it to them through your thoughts, actions, words, and works(these are the old ways, the failed and failing ways, the limited ways)...then they must choose to look upon it and see for themselves, and seek to become it...

...my movement is not a movement of assualt or beguilment, it is a movement of self and personal freedom. Since I can garnish no control over the material directly in the current atmosphere(for any such atempts would betray progression to the old ways)I seek the only thing I can free, and the thing that must be freed first...my mind, my essence, and my soul...in this, I am free of the most important and lasting hell, in this I roam in paradise, in this, the realm of my heart, mind and soul...through this, and actions centered on this, I am laying the foundation through the seed of example, the only foundation where from which anything that is truly different beyond face and appearence can grow...

...I do not expect people to develope similar ideas and perspective as me...all I expect is for them to seek self freedom and true identity, so they can build something that is truly a creation of the individual, and not mass produced...

...to paraphrase the man you say provides your dream of heaven: "so you say that it's the institution, well ya know, ya better free your mind instead..."

-john lennon

...I say this, you want to echo lennon's heaven...it will never work, you need to echo your own heaven...

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