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Subject: Re: Well venom, i can see your point of view and.....


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Not as much Venom
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Date Posted: 18:57:43 06/17/01 Sun
In reply to: TEE 's message, "Well venom, i can see your point of view and....." on 18:04:17 06/17/01 Sun
 Peace to you too Tee

I am afraid to list those sites because they will become targets. Not by you but by some of the low life wanna be hacker types. Any site centered around one girl and her frinds is T girl owned. You can tell the big boys by all the flashy expensive graphics and the gateways into the sites. The big boys have thousands of stock photos of the same girls that do all the videos.

When it comes to billing always join sites that use major billing companies like Ibill and CCbill. Read the fine print on rebilling and save your subscription number. Remeber the rebill date and cancel through the billing company interface. Don't write to the site itself. I don't know of any small T girl owned site that sends out spam mail or sells lists. Some of the big porn industry connected sites do. I also know that a lot of the big boys offer the girls nothing but the promise of being a star for compensation. That is low and wrong. I can tell you that many of the girls who start sites are trying to make a better life for themselves. It is a way to get out of "the life". The life that leads to an early death from beatings, disease and arrest. There are not that many alternatives out there for T girls. They can work for the mainstream porn industry and make those guys in LA rich while they turn tricks or they can produce a product. No one has more reason to produce a decent product than a T girl. For some of the girls a succesful site is the differance between living a decent life or returning to hell.

TooMok and TS Lover may be very decent guys but I know for a fact the the forum that was on Brave net almost destroyed a girls life. She got hit with a $2,000 bill for file transfer in a month where her site would have just broke even before that bill. If we were sitting down together over a beer I would tell you the full details. Once again I can't because of the mentality of some on these boards.

I can also tell you that a few of the forums were removed that I had not reported. You guys have made more enimies than just me. As an owner of a site I put in up to 70 hours of work a week. Invest most of what I make off the site into outfits, props, better cameras, lighting and software and I pay my models as much as I possibly can. I have also offered many girls advice on setting up sites of their own.

These forums have caused me a total nightmare. I have seen posts about "just upgrade your security". I have done that but it was expensive as hell. I had to deal with several weeks where members could not get in because of glitches in the scripts. I had to cancel two shoots and waste countless hours dealing with security that should have been spent working on a scanner, setting up shoots, shopping for props and all the rest that goes into a site. When you put that kind of effort into a labor of love you get evil when your work is attacked.

Let's keep talking.
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Now I totally agree with you andTEE00:07:53 06/18/01 Mon

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