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Date Posted: 08:07:05 11/10/02 Sun
Author: Ëåì
Subject: Re: çë³òàþòüñÿ ÿê ìóõè íà ã³âíî...
In reply to: Òðåéòÿê 's message, "Re: çë³òàþòüñÿ ÿê ìóõè íà ã³âíî..." on 16:24:36 11/09/02 Sat

çâåðíè óâàãó íà êëàñè÷íèé "îñòàíí³é àð´óìåíò æèäîáîðöÿ":

Òàê ÿ æ ³ êàæó: ïðèêðî, êîëè íàëåæí³ñòü äî óêðà¿íñòâà íàìàãàþòüñÿ âèì³ðþâàòè ãðàäóñîì æèäîôî᳿. À ÿêùî Øåïòèöüêèé ãåáðå¿â ï³ä ÷àñ â³éíè ðÿòóâàâ, òî â³í âæå íå óêðà¿íåöü ÷è ÿê?..

Ïîãîäæóþñÿ ³ â òîìó, ùî òîé óêðà¿íåöü, ùî íå ïîâàæຠòîãî Íåáà - öå çîâñ³ì íå óêðà¿íåöü. Á³ëüøå çà òå, ñïðàâæí³é óêðà¿íåöü ìîæå áóòè ò³ëüêè ïðàâîñëàâíèì, é çðîçóì³ëî ùî ò³ëüêè â ÌÏ (¥àòóê ïðèãàäàâñÿ - äóæå ïîä³áíî ãîâîðèâ), àäæå öå Íåáî ðîçðîáëåíå ñàìå òàì.

Ö³êàâà ð³÷ - â³äíîñèíè ì³æ þäåÿìè ³ ïðàâîñëàâíèìè. Òóò âñå äóæå íåïðîñòî. Ìåí³ çäàºòüñÿ, ùî êîíôë³êò º íåìèíó÷èì, àëå ð³äêî ðîçóì³þòü ñïðàâæíþ ïðèðîäó òîãî êîíôë³êòó. Ñêëàäàºòüñÿ âðàæåííÿ, ùî äæåðåëî êîíôë³êòó - ó ð³çíèõ, ïðÿìî ïðîòèëåæíèõ æèòòºâèõ íàñòàíîâàõ. Ãðóáî êàæó÷è, ÿêùî þäåé ðîçó쳺 æèòòÿ ÿê ðàç ³ íàçàâæäè äàíó ö³íí³ñòü ³ íàìàãàºòüñÿ ç íüîãî ñêîðèñòàòèñÿ çà ïîâíîþ ïðîãðàìîþ, òî ïðàâîñëàâíèé íà÷åáòî ïèøå ñâîº æèòòÿ íà ÷åðíåòêó, áî òî ³ íå æèòòÿ í³ÿêå, à òàê, "÷àøà ãîðüêàÿ", ÿêó òðåáà âèïèòè, ùîá çàñëóæèòè ñïðàâæíº æèòòÿ. Çà òàêèõ óìîâ âèõîäèòü, ùî þäåé åêñïëóàòóº ïðàâîñëàâíîãî ç éîãî íåõ³òòþ äî æèòòÿ ³ íåçäàòí³ñòþ äî ïîë³ïøåííÿ óìîâ öüîãî æèòòÿ. Íå òîìó, ùî ïðàâîñëàâíèé ñâÿòèé, à þäåé ïîðîäæåííÿ ïåêëà, à ïðîñòî òîìó ùî âîíè ðîçóì³þòü æèòòÿ ïî-ð³çíîìó. ̳æ òèì, ó Ãàìåðèö³ ç ¿¿ "ïðîòåñòàíòñüêîþ åòèêîþ" ãåáðå¿ ïðèæèëèñÿ ÷óäîâî.

p.s. Ñîëîâéîâ ä³éñíî äîáðå ñêàçàâ: "Èóäåè âñåãäà îòíîñèëèñü ê íàì ïî-èóäåéñêè". À îò ïî-õðèñòèÿíñüêè, ïðèíàéìí³ çã³äíî ç ²ñóñîâèì íàäçâè÷àéíî ãóìàííèì â÷åííÿì - öå òðóäíî :).

Òàê ó òîìó é ñïðàâà. Âèñóâàòè ïðåòåí糿 þäåÿì ìîæíà ç ð³çíèõ áîê³â, àëå ò³ëüêè íå ç õðèñòèÿíñüêîãî, áî öå âõîäèòü ó ïðîòèð³÷÷ÿ ç ñàìèì äóõîì õðèñòèÿíñòâà. Ùîñü ñõîæå íà Ñîëîâéîâà êîëèñü ïèñàâ ³ Áåðäÿºâ: ùî ïðîáëåìà íå ó ãåáðåéñòâ³ ÿê òàêîìó, à ó õðèñòèÿíàõ. À ãåáðåéñòâî - öå í³áè âèïðîáóâàííÿ íàñ íà õðèñòèÿíñòâî, ñâîºð³äíà ïàñòêà, ó ÿêó ïîòðàïëÿþòü íåìóäð³ õðèñòèÿíè.
Êîòðèéñü ç ðîñ³éñüêèõ êëàñèê³â (÷è íå Áëîê?..âò³ì, âîíè ìàéæå âñ³ áóëè àíòèñåì³òàìè) ìàéæå ô³ç³îëîã³÷íî â³ä÷óâàâ ãåáðåéñòâî ÿê ùîñü æîâòå, ñëèçüêå ³ ëèïó÷å, ùî ïîâèâຠäóøó, ïðîïîíóþ÷è ð³çíîìàí³òí³ ñïîêóñè ³ ðàé íà çåìë³ ³ ïîçáàâëÿþ÷è òèì ñàìèì Öàðñòâ³ÿ Íåáåñíîãî. Òîáòî ó éîãî óÿâ³ öå òðàíñôîðìóâàëîñÿ ó ñþæåò ñïîêóøàííÿ Äèÿâîëîì Õðèñòà. ² îñü ó öüîìó ðîäçèíêà: Õðèñòîñ òîä³ âèñòîÿâ, àëå éîãî õðèñòèÿíñüê³ ó÷í³ ÿê óïàäàëè, òàê ³ óïàäàþòü çà äèÿâîëüñüêèìè ñïîêóñàìè. Êîëè ãåáðåþ-øèíêàðþ äîð³êàþòü, ùî â³í ñïî¿â Ìàëîðîñ³þ, òî òîé ò³ëüêè ðîçâîäèòü ðóêàìè: õ³áà â³í âèííèé, ùî òóòåøí³é ïîïèò îáìåæóºòüñÿ ëèøå ãîð³ëêîþ?.. ßêáè ïîòðåáóâàëè êíèã, òî òîðãóâàâ áè êíèãàìè (çðåøòîþ, éîìó îäíàêîâî, ÷èì òîðãóâàòè, àáè äàâàëî ïðèáóòîê). Ñüîãîäí³ ïðàâîñëàâí³ ïàòð³îòè çàêèäàþòü Ãîë³âóäó, ùî òàìòåøí³ æèäè ãîäóþòü õðèñòèÿí ñåêñîì ³ íàñèëëÿì. Òî õ³áà â òîìó Ãîë³âóä âèíåí, ùî ëþäè ïðàãíóòü ñàìå öüîãî? Ìàáóòü, íå òðåáà ïåðåêëàäàòè ç õâîðî¿ ãîëîâè íà çäîðîâó.
ß â÷îðà ÷èòàâ ˺ñêîâà, ïðî ãåáðå¿â ó Ðîñ³éñüê³é ³ìïåð³¿.  ïðèíöèï³, ìîæíà é íå ÷èòàòè: ÷àñîì â³ðíî, ³íøèì ðàçîì íà¿âíî, à ïîäåêóäè ³ â³äâåðòà áðåõíÿ. Àëå òàì º äåê³ëüêà ö³êàâèõ ïîð³âíÿíü âåëèêîðîñüêèõ ³ ìàëîðîñüêèõ çâè÷à¿â ³ ïîáóòó. Ïîäèâèñÿ, ÿê ìàòèìåø ÷àñ ³ íàòõíåííÿ. Öå íîñòàëüã³÷íå. Íà æàëü, ç òîãî ÷àñó âñå çì³íèëîñÿ, ³ òåïåð ìàºìî îäíàêîâèé ñâèíàðíèê â³ä Äí³ïðà äî Òèõîãî îêåàíó:(
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