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Date Posted: 19:17:03 07/22/02 Mon
Author: Òðåéòÿê
Subject: ê³ëüêà ïèòàíü
In reply to: Ìàêñèì 's message, "Ãîìàíí òà Âàé´åëü" on 01:16:51 07/20/02 Sat

äÿêóþ çà óâàæíèé ïåðåãëÿä - â³äì³ííîñò³ ñïðàâä³ äîñèòü ñóòòºâ³. Ñïðîáóþ ï³äñóìóâàòè - ïîñòຠê³ëüêà ïèòàíü:


1. ÃîìàÍÍ ÷è ÃîÌÌàí?
ßê ïðàâèëüíî òðåáà ïèñàòè? Íà êàðòóø³, ÿê áà÷èòå: "Hommano", òà â "ÑËÀ² ÓÊÐ. ÊÎÇÀÖÒÂÀ" òåæ ïîäâ³éíå "Ì", àëå íå "Í".


2. ïèòàííÿ ì³íëèâîãî êàðòóøà
ßêùî Âàé´åëü 1719 ð. çàì³íèâ êàðòóøà íà ìàï³, òî ÷îìó íà î÷åâèäíî ï³çí³ø³é ìàï³ çíîâó áà÷èìî ñòàðèé? ×è öå ä³ëî ï³çí³øèõ êàðòî´ðàô³â: Çîéòåðà, Ëîòòåðà? Âçàãàë³, ö³êàâî â³äìèòèòè, ùî íà ñòàðîìó êàðòóø³ ñòî¿òü âèêëþ÷íî ïð³çâ. Ãîììàíà, à íå êîãîñü ç ï³çí³øèõ óïîðÿäíèê³â? ßê ãàäàºòå, ÷îìó í³õòî ç íîâ³øèõ êàðòî´ðàô³â íå äîäàâ ñåáå?


3. MOSCOVITICA -> RUSSICA;
Òàê, öÿ çàì³íà (ÿ ¿¿ ïîì³òèâ ó òðüîõ ì³ñöÿõ:
a) ˳âîáåðåæíà Óêðà¿íà (Kiovia Moscoviti -> Kiovia Russi)
b) Âëàñíå Ìîñêîâùèíà (Moscovitica -> Russica)
c) Ñõ³ä (Moscviticae Pars -> Russicae Pars)
ñâ³ä÷èòü ïðî òå, ùî ìàïà òàêè ï³çí³øà. Àäæå ñàìå â òèõ ÷àñàõ, êîëè ìàïà âïåðøå ïóáë³êóâàëàñÿ (äî ðå÷³, öå ùå îäíå ïèòàííÿ) ìîñêàë³ çàõîäèëèñÿ íàä çì³íîþ íàçâè - çäàºòüñÿ, àêòèâí³ çàõîäè ïî÷àëèñÿ ùîéíî ïî çàê³í÷åíí³ Ïîëòàâñüêîãî áîþ. Çäàºòüñÿ, "âêðàäåíà íàçâà" á³ëüø-ìåíø çàêð³ïèëàñÿ çà íèìè â ªâðîï³ âæå ïî çàê³í÷åíí³ Ï³âí. â³éíè (1721)?


4. Êîëè ÿêà âåðñ³ÿ ìàïè ïóáë³êóâàëàñÿ
a) Êîëüîðîâà "ïîë³òè÷íî îíîâëåíà" â³äñêàíîâàíà ìàïà ç êîëåêö³¿ Äæàìàíà î÷åâèäíî º íàéï³çí³øîþ. Âò³ì, 1716-1777 - öå âñå XVIII ñò...
b) Ìàïà ç Íàö³îíàëüíîãî ìóçåþ ³ñòî𳿠Óêðà¿íè (ôîòî, ç êíèãè ÑËÀÂÀ ÓÊÐ. ÊÎÇÀÖÒÂÀ) - Ìîñêîâ³ò³êè íà ì³ñö³, îñòðîâà íåìຠ- çàì³ñòü íüîãî ï³âîñòð³â (äî ðå÷³, íàñïðàâä³ æ ï³âîñòð³â, òî âèõîäèòü íà ï³çí³ø³é ìàï³ éîãî ïîìèëêîâî â³äîêðåìèëè)
c) ×îðíî-á³ëà ðåïðîäóêö³ÿ ç Îãëîáëèíà, äå íåìຠï³äïèñà ï³ä ìàïîþ, (ç êîëåêö³¿ Ãðåãîðîâè÷à). 1710 ð³ê - ö³êàâà äàòà. ×è öå íå ìîæå áóòè ïîõèáêà? (àäæå ñêð³çü âêàçóºòüñÿ ñàìå 1716 ð³ê - ÿê ð³ê ïåðøî¿ ïóáë³êàö³¿ ìàïè?) Íà ö³é ìàï³ íå ïî âñ³õ ì³ñöÿõ ïîçíà÷åí³ êîðäîíè - ïî äåÿêèõ òàê çîâñ³ì íåïîì³òí³ - ÷è öå íå º õèáà ðåïðîäóêö³¿ ÷è ùå ùîñü ïîä³áíå?
d) Äðóãà ÷îðíî-á³ëà ìàïà: ñàìå ï³ä íåþ ñòî¿òü ï³äïèñ ÃîìàÍÍà, àëå öå íå º ÷àñòèíîþ ìàïè, öå ëèøå íàïèñ ó ò³é êíèæö³, çâ³äêè ¿¿ ñêàíîâàíî.
Âëàñíå, æîäíèõ ñóòòºâèõ â³äì³ííîñòåé ì³æ ìàïàìè b), c), d) ÿ íå ïîì³òèâ - ö³ëêîì éìîâ³ðíî, ùî âñ³ âîíè áóëè îïóáë³êîâàí³ ùå 1716 ð., àáî äóæå áëèçüêî äî òîãî.., ïðèíàéìí³ öüîãî íå ìîæíà âèêëþ÷àòè. ³äð³çíÿºòüñÿ îä ðåøòè ëèøå ìàïà a). Îòæå, òóò àáî âåëèêà â³äñòàíü â ÷àñ³ ïóáë³êàö³¿, àáî...?

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