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Date Posted: 06:02:39 08/17/02 Sat
Author: Òðåéòÿê
Subject: Re: Ïóò³í çàæàäàâ äèâ³äåíä³â...
In reply to: Andrij 's message, "Re: Ïóò³í çàæàäàâ äèâ³äåíä³â..." on 17:13:07 08/15/02 Thu

--- Ïðîáà÷òå, àëå ðîçøèðåííÿ òåðèòî𳿠çà ðàõóíîê ³íøî¿ íàö³¿ âàæêî ðîçãëÿäàòè ÿê "çàõèñò äåðæàâíèõ ³íòåðåñ³â".
Ïî-ïåðøå, í³ÿêèé öå íå çàõèñò, áî í³õòî íà÷åáòî íå íàïàäàº.

Öÿ ïîçèö³ÿ äåùî ³äåàë³ñòè÷íà. Ðîñ³ÿ â³äáóëàñÿ ÿê ³ìïåð³ÿ, ³ ôàêòè÷íî íåþ çàëèøàºòüñÿ äîñüîãîäí³. ß ïðîñòî êîíñòàòóþ ôàêò, áåç îö³íîê. Ðîñ³ÿ ïî÷èíàëàñÿ ÿê ³ìïåð³ÿ. ² öåé ñòàòóñ áóâ îñòàòî÷íî çàêð³ïëåíèé íà ïî÷àòêó 18-ãî ñò. Ñüîãîäí³ Ðîñ³ÿ - ïîïðè ÷àñòêîâèé ðîçâàë Ñîâºöüêî¿ ³ìïåð³¿, çàëèøàºòüñÿ âåëèêîþ äåðæàâîþ, ÿêà ìຠñâî¿ ãåîïîë³òè÷í³ àìá³ö³¿. Âëàñíå, âåëèêà äåðæàâà íå ìîæå æèòè áåç òàêèõ àìá³ö³é, áî òîä³ âîíà ïåðåñòàíå áóòè âåëèêîþ. ßñíà ð³÷, ùî Ðîñ³ÿ ïðàãíåå çàëèøàòèñÿ âåëèêîþ äåðæàâîþ. Îòæå, ïðàãíåííÿ äî ðîçøèðåííÿ òåðèòîð³¿, äî çá³ëüøåííÿ íàñåëåííÿ â öüîìó êîíòåêñò³ ñë³ä ðîçãëÿäàòè ñàìå ÿê çàõèñò äåðæàâíèõ
³íåòðåñ³â, ³ìïåðñüêèõ ³íòåðåñ³â, à â ðîñ³éñüêîìó âèïàäêó, äåðæàâí³ ³íòåðåñè º ñàìå ³ìïåðñüêèìè.

-- Ïî-äðóãå, ÿêùî Ðîñ³ÿ îòðèìຠòåðèòîð³þ Á³ëîðóñ³, òî í³ÿêî¿ êîðèñò³ äëÿ ïðîñòèõ ðîñ³ÿí â³ä öüîãî íå áóäå.
Çâè÷àéíî, ìîæíà áóäå õèçóâàòèñÿ "âåêèêîþ äåðæàâîþ", àëå äî ðîòà àáî â êèøåíþ ¿¿ íå ïîêëàäåø.

Ïîêè ùî Ðîñ³ÿ íå ìîæå áóòè âåëèêîþ äåðæàâîþ åêîíîì³÷íî, îòæå çàëèøàºòüñÿ áóòè âåëèêîþ äåðæàâîþ õî÷à á
ïîë³òè÷íî. Ïîë³òèêà æ íå ìຠñòîñóíêó äî "ðîòà àáî êèøåí³" :) Âçàãàë³, ÿê íà ìåíå, öå äîñèòü ñï³ðíå ïèòàííÿ,
÷îãî á³ëüøå ïîòðåáóº "ïðîñòèé ðîñ³ÿíèí": âåëèêî¿ äåðæàâè ÷è âåëèêîãî äîáðîáóòó. Ö³ëêîì éìîâ³ðíî, ùî â³í á³ëüøå ïîòðåáóº ÿêðàç "ñâºðøåí³é"...

--- Íàðåøò³, äóæå ñóìí³âàþñü, ùî áàãàòî á³ëîðóñ³â çàõîòÿòü ïîçáóâàòèñü âëàñíî¿ ñàìîñò³éíîñò³. Íàñàìïåðåä öå ñòîñóºòüñÿ á³ëîðóñüêî¿ åë³òè. Õî÷à, çâè÷àéíî, äóæå ìîæëèâî, ùî âñ³ ïðîòåñòè áóäå ïðèäóøåíî á³ëîðóñüêèì Ê¥Á. Ëóêàøåíêó ìîæå íå çàëèøèòèñü í³÷îãî, êð³ì ÿê ñë³äóâàòè çà âëàñíèìè "ïðèõèëüíèêàìè" äî Ðîñ³¿. Òèïîâå çàõîïëåííÿ êðà¿íè ìåòîäàìè ñòàë³íñüêîãî ÍÊÂÄ, çãàäàéòå "ïðèºäíàííÿ" Ïðèáàëòèêè.  äàíîìó âèïàäêó âñå íàâ³òü ïðîñò³øå, áî ïðàêòè÷íî íå ³ñíóº îïîçèö³¿, îòæå äî Ñèá³ðó òðåáà áóäå â³äïðàâëÿòè îäèíèöü çàì³ñòü ñîòåíü òèñÿ÷.

ß äóìàþ, ùî âñå öå â³äáóâàòèìåòüñÿ (ÿêùî â³äáóâàòèìåòüñÿ) äóæå ñïîê³éíî, ³ áåç âåëèêèõ ïðîòåñò³â. Âçàãàë³ íå
ïðèãàäóþ, ÷è êîëè-íåáóäü á³ëîðóñè äóæå áóíòóâàëèñÿ. Öå òàêà "ëîÿëüíà íàö³ÿ" çàâæäè áóëà, â íèõ í³êîëè íå áóëî, àáî ìàéæå íå áóëî, âåëèêèõ âèçâîëüíèõ çìàãàíü, í³ çà ÷àñ³â г÷ïîñïîëèòî¿, í³ ï³ñëÿ 1917 ð., àí³ ïî Äð. Ñâ³òîâ³é â³éí³...


Âèñíîâêè:

1. ñüîãîäí³ Ðîñ³ÿ ùåäðî ô³íàíñóº Á³ëîðóñü, íàäçâè÷àéíî ùåäðî, öå âåëèê³ âèäàòêè íà óòðèìàííÿ Ëóêàøåíêà - â
ðàç³ ïðèºäàííÿ Á³ëîðóñ³ äî Ðîñ³¿ ö³ âèäàòêè íàâðÿä ÷è çáëüøàòüñÿ, à ðàäøå íàâ³òü çìåíøàòüñÿ. Îòæå, ç
åêîíîì³÷íîãî ïîãëÿäó öå âèã³äíî. Òîæ çãàäàíèé âèùå ïåðåñ³÷íèé ðîñ³ÿíèí â³ä öüîãî íå ïîñòðàæäàº, à ùå
ïîò³øèòüñÿ ç ðîçøèðåííÿ äåðæàâè, îòðèìຠòàêèé ñîá³ "áàëüçàì äëÿ äóø³".

2. Á³ëîðóñü - öå íå ò³ëüêè "öåííèé ìºõ" :), ñåáòî íåìàëà òåðèòîð³ÿ â ªâðîï³, à ùå é 10 ì³ëüîí³â ïîê³ðíîãî,
òðàäèö³éíî "ëîÿëüíîãî" äî çàéìàíöÿ íàñåëåííÿ, äî òîãî æ çðóñèô³êîâàíîãî ìàéæå äî ðåøòè (íàãàäàþ, ùî ó Á³ëîðóñ³ ðîñ³öñéüêà ìîâà º äåðæàâíîþ, ïåðøîþ äåðæàâíîþ, à á³ëîðóñüêà ò³ëüêè äðóãîþ). Öå âàì íå 10 ì³ëüîí³â â³÷íî áóíò³âíèõ ã³ðö³â, ùî â³ä íè ³ìïåð³ÿ ìຠñàì ïðîáëåìè. ͳ, öå äóæå âèã³äíèé íàáóòîê, öèõ 10 ì³ëüîí³â "áóëüáàø³â" - öå ìàéæå ðîñ³ÿíè.


Òåïåð ïîðàõóéòå, ÿêèé âèá³ð ìຠÏóò³í:
1) àáî ïðîäîâæóâàòè "áëàãîä³éíèöüêå" ñïîíñîðóâàííÿ Ëóêàøåíêà,
2) àáî ïðèºäíàòè Á³ëîðóñü äî Ðîñ³¿ (çàéâèõ âèäàòê³â âñå îäíî íå áóäå, æîäíèõ ïðîòåñò³â íå áóäå òåæ - óñå
äîáðîâ³ëüíî ³ ëàã³äíî, îòæå âèã³äíî - äèâ. íàïèñàíå âèùå),
3) àáî â³äìîâèòèñü â³ä ñïîíñîðóâàííÿ Ëóêàøåíêà ³ êèíóòè Á³ëîðóñü íàïðèçâîëÿùå (àëå öå éäå âñóïåðå÷ ³íòåðåñàì Ðîñ³¿, ³ ðîñ³ÿíè ç öüîãî íå áóäóòü çàäîâîëåí³, à ïåâíî ùî Ïóò³í çâî볺 "ïîò³øèòè" ðîñ³ÿí, à íå çìåíøóâàòè âëàñíó ïîïóëÿðí³ñòü, ÷è íå òàê? :) )

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