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Date Posted: 15:23:04 03/21/02 Thu
Author: Ëåì
Subject: Re: ðàõóþ÷è íà òâîþ êîíöåïö³þ ...
In reply to: Òðåéòÿê 's message, "ðàõóþ÷è íà òâîþ êîíöåïö³þ ..." on 10:19:17 03/20/02 Wed

Íàñïðàâä³ Ãóì³ëüîâ áàãàòî ÷îãî íàïèñàâ, íå çàáóâ é ïðî òàê³ ñóñï³ëüí³ ôîðìàö³¿, ÿê-îò òóðåöüê³ ÿíè÷àðè. Îòæå, âèçíà÷åííþ âñå-òàêè ï³ääàºòüñÿ, ùîá òè òóò íå ãîâîðèâ :)

Íó ìîæå ³ ï³ääàºòüñÿ, àëå íå ó åòí³÷íèõ òåðì³íàõ. Íåâæå Ãóì³ëüîâ ââàæàâ ÿíè÷àð "ñóáåòíîñîì" òóðåöüêîãî íàðîäó?:)

Ùîäî êñåíîôî᳿: êñåíîôîá³ÿ íå áóâຠáåç ãðóíòó, ¿õíÿ íåíàâèñòü äî ÷å÷åíö³â ìåí³ ö³ëêîì çðîçóì³ëà, âîíà, äî ðå÷³, çóìîâëåíà ñàìîþ ³ñòîð³ºþ êóáàíö³â: âæå â³ä ïåðøèõ ðîê³â ïîñåëåííÿ íà Êóáàí³ êîçàêè ìóñèëè ïîñò³éíî âîþâàòè ç "÷åðêåñàìè" (ï³ä "÷åðêåñàìè" òîä³ ðîçóì³ëè âñ³ êàâêàçüê³ ã³ðñüê³ íàðîäè âçàãàë³).

Òàê ¿õ ìîñêàë³ ñïåö³àëüíî äëÿ òîãî òóäè ³ ï³äñåëèëè, íà ò³ çåìë³, ÿê ëîõ³â. ² âîíè íå ìîãëè òîãî íå ðîçóì³òè. ß ïðîñòî áàëäºþ ç òîãî, ÿê ñüîãîäí³ âîíè ââàæàþòü öå "³ñêîííèìè" ñâî¿ìè òåðèòîð³ÿìè.

Òàì º ÿê³ñü øàíñè, é íàâ³òü íà ñüîãîäí³ âîíè íå íàäòî äàëåê³ â³ä øàíñ³â íà â³äðîäæåííÿ óêðà¿íñòâà ó òîìó æ Äîíáàñ³.

Î, òî â òåáå íàâ³òü ó Äîíáàñ³ ÿê³ñü ïëàíè?:) Íå ìîæó íå ïîçàçäðèòè òâîºìó îïòèì³çìó. ß áà÷ó ëèøå òå, ÿê øâèäêî îìîñêàëþºòüñÿ Ãàëè÷èíà. ² õòî á ì³ã ïîäóìàòè: òàì, äå íå âïîðàëèñÿ ìîñêîâñüê³ òàíêè, éäå ïåðåìîæíîþ õîäîþ Òàíÿ Áóëàíîâà ç ²âàíóøêàìè-äóðà÷êàìè ³ ãàçåòà "Õâàêòè" ç áëàòíîþ ïîïñîþ:(



ßê ïîðàõóâàòè ïî-òâîºìó, òî íå çàáàãàòî :) Àäæå â³í ðåïðåçåíòóº äóìêó òèõ, õòî "íå âñòèã ñàìîóñâ³äîìèòèñü". ß òàê çðîçóì³â, òàêèõ "íåñàìîóñâ³äîìëåíèõ" º äóæå áàãàòî, ÷è íå òàê?

Òè ïîìèëÿºøñÿ. Òî ñâ³äîìà ³ñòîòà, îñîáëèâèé õðóêò. Íà â³äì³íó â³ä "íåóñâ³äîìëåíèõ" õîõë³â-ïðèäóð÷åíê³â, òîé ñïðàâæí³é ìåðçîòíèê. Íå ãèäóºòüñÿ ³íñòèòóòîì Çàòóë³íà, Ôðîëîâèì ³ òàêèì áåçö³ííèì äæåðåëîì "ïðàâäèâî¿ ³ñòîðè÷íî¿ ³íôîðìàö³¿", ÿê ãàçåòà "Êðèìñêàÿ ïðàâäà". Òè äóìàºø, â³í ñïðàâä³ â³ðèòü, ùî éîãî ïóáë³êàö³¿ ïðî óêðà¿íñüêó ³ñòîð³þ ïðàâäèâ³? ͳ, öå ñâ³äîìèé äèâåðñàíò. Î÷åâèäíî, Çàòóë³íèì ³ ô³íàíñóºòüñÿ, ïîòâîðà.

îò³ âñ³ "çðàäíèêè" (íàçèâàþ ÷èñòî óìîâíî, áî òðåáà æ ÿêîñü ¿õ íàçèâàòè) öå òàê ñàìî îêðåìà íàö³ÿ, ÷è ùå ÿêèéñü ôåíîìåí, à äî óêðà¿íö³â âîíè íå ìàþòü æîäíîãî ñòîñóíêó. Õàé áóäóòü "ôåíîìåíîì". (À íàñïðàâä³ - ÷àñòèíîþ âåëèêîãî ðîñ³éñêîãî íàðîäó).


Íó äîáðå, äàâàé òàê çðîáèìî: âèêëè÷åìî ¿õ óñ³õ ç ðå÷àìè íà ïðèâîêçàëüíó ïëîùó, âèøèêóºìî ³ çàïèøåìî äî ïàñïîðò³â ¿ì ãðîìàäÿíñòâî Ðîñ³¿, íàìàëþºìî äâîãîëîâó êóðêó ³ â³äïðîâàäèìî òîâàðíèìè åøåëîíàìè íà Ðîä³íó ï³ä "ïðîùàí³º ñëàâÿíêè":) Íó ÿê òîá³?.. Òàê îòîæ: äåðæàâó ðîçáóäîâóâàòè - öå òîá³ íå "çàéö³â" â ²íòåðíåò³ ïîëþâàòè:)))



Íó öå æ â³äâåðòî àíòè³ñòîðè÷íà êîíöåï³ÿ. "Â÷åíèé Àáàêóì" òà éîãî ïðèÿòåë³ ñàì³ öå óñâ³äîìëþþòü, àëå ¿õí³é ðîçðàõóíîê íà òåìíó ìîñêâîô³ëüñêó ìàñó, ÿêà íå ðîçó쳺òüñÿ íå òå ùîá íà ³ñòîð³¿, à é ïî-ìîñêîâñüêè ïèñàòè ÿê ñë³ä íå â쳺 :)

Àëå öåé ðîçðàõóíîê º â³ðíèì, îñü â ÷îìó ïðîáëåìà:(



À "ïîëîâåöüêèé ñòåï", çà éîãî æ âèçíà÷åííÿì, íåõàé é íàäàë³ áóäå "ôåíîìåíîì". Íó ñïðàâä³, ìîæå ãîä³ îäíå îäíîãî ñèëêóâàòè?

Ôåíîìåíîì ó ñêëàä³ Ðîñ³¿, òè õî÷åø ñêàçàòè? Ïðèïèíè íåãàéíî ðîçáàçàðþâàòè äåðæàâí³ òåðèòîð³¿!..:)

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