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Date Posted: 01:02:41 03/25/02 Mon
Author: Ìàêñèì
Subject: Re: ñïðîáè íîâî¿ ³äå¿
In reply to: Òðåéòÿê 's message, "Re: ñïðîáè íîâî¿ ³äå¿" on 14:12:17 03/24/02 Sun

×îìó íå çäîáóòîê... Ó ðàäÿíñüêèõ ëþäåé (ºäèíîãî ðàäÿíñüêîãî íàðîäó òîùî) áóëè "ñò³íè", áóëà Äåðæàâà, ïðî ÿêó ðàäÿíñüêà ëþäèíà-"îáùå÷ºëîâºê" ìîãëà ëèøå ìð³ÿòè. Åêîíîì³÷í³ òà äåðæàâíèöüê³ ïåðåâàãè äëÿ ëþäåé áåç íàö³îíàëüíèõ ïîòðåá î÷åâèäí³. (Îäèí ç íàéðîçóìí³øèõ ñó÷àñíèõ ðîñ³éñüêèõ êîìóí³ñò³â Êàðà-Ìóðçà íàáàãàòî êðàùå îïèñàâ ïåðåâàãè.) Ïîð³âíÿòè ç ñüîãîäåííÿì ³ âèñíîâîê áóäå íå íà êîðèñòü íåçàëåæí³é Óêðà¿í³. Ìàéæå âñ³ ö³ííîñò³ ñïîê³éíîãî äåðæàâíèöüêîãî æèòòÿ áóëè âòðà÷åí³. Êîëè ìè çñóâàºìîñÿ íà ðèòîðèêó ïîáóäîâè íîâî¿ Äåðæàâè, òî íåñâ³äîìî ïîâòîðþâàòèìåìî ìîäåë³ ÑÐÑÐ. (Ùîá ïîÿñíèòè, íàãàäàþ âèñòóï ²âàíà Äçþáè äî âðó÷åííÿ Øåâ÷åíê³âñüêî¿ ïðå쳿. ³í â ïðÿìîìó åòåð³ îãîâîðèâñÿ ³ íàçâàâ ¿¿ "Ñòàë³íñüêîþ". Äóæå ñèìïòîìàòè÷íî.) Ìåí³ çäàºòüñÿ, ùî ñàìå ñò³í ìè ³ íå ïîáóäóâàëè. Òàêó ñîá³ âðåì’ÿíêó, ³ ñüîãîäí³ çàêëàäàºòüñÿ ëèøå ôóíäàìåíò.

Äëÿ ìåíå âòðàòà - öå îñòàòî÷íà âòðàòà øàíñ³â íà ñòàíîâëåííÿ â³äêðèòîãî ãðîìàäÿíñüêîãî ñóñï³ëüñòâà â íàø³é Óêðà¿í³. Åêîíîì³÷íèé äåôîëò ÷è ùîñü ïîä³áíå - ïðèêð³, àëå íå íàäòî ñåðéîçí³ ïðîáëåìè, ç ÿêèìè íàì äîâåäåòüñÿ ìàòè ñïðàâó. Íàéã³ðøèé ñöåíàð³é âæå â³äáóâàºòüñÿ. Óêðà¿íñüêà âëàäà âòðàòèëà ãîëîâíó ñêëàäîâó ëå´³òèìíîñò³ - äîâ³ðó. ßê ïî䳿 ðîçãîðòàòèìóòüñÿ ï³ñëÿ âèáîð³â ïîêàæå ÷àñ.

Ïðîòè ìàõíîâñüêèõ "ïàðòèçàí". Áàçà Ìàõíà - ñòåïîâå ñåëÿíñòâî, ÿêó â³í âòðà÷àâ, êîëè ïðèõîäèëà ðåàëüíà âëàäà. Òîáòî Ìàõíî íå ïàðòèçàíèâ, à óòâîðèâ ñâîþ âëàñíó ñòåïîâó äåðæàâêó, ÿêó â³í êîíòðîëþâàâ. Ùîñü íà çðàçîê Çàïîðîçüêî¿ Ñ³÷³, äî ñèìâîë³â ÿêî¿ Ìàõíî àïåëþâàâ.

Ñïîãàäè Ñêîðîïàäñüêîãî âèäàí³ ñàìå ðîñ³éñüêîþ.
ß áà÷ó îñíîâíó øêîäó, ÿêó 䳿 Ñêîðîïàäñüêîãî íàíåñëè Óêðà¿í³, â òîìó, ùî â³í íå áà÷èâ ïåðñïåêòèâó ïîáóäîâè íàö³îíàëüíî¿ äåðæàâè. Éîãî ³äå¿ - öå ³äå¿ Àêñüîíîâà "Îñòð³â Êðèì"; Ãåòüìàíàò Ñêîðîïàäñüêîãî ³äåéíî áóâ ïðèðå÷åíèé íà ïðèºäíàííÿ äî Ðîñ³¿.

ßêó äåðæàâó ìè áóäóºìî? Öå ïèòàííÿ çàâäàëî äóæå áàãàòî øêîäè âíóòð³øí³é ïîë³òèö³. Íàö³îíàëüíèé ðóõ ìຠâ³äïîâ³äàòè - Óêðà¿íñüêó äåðæàâó. Êðàïêà. ßêîþ âîíà áóäå - êîìóí³ñòè÷íîþ, îë³ãàðõ³÷íîþ ÷è äåìîêðàòè÷íîþ - öå âæå íå ïðîáëåìè íàö³îíàëüíîãî ðóõó. (Öå ïðîáëåìè êîìóí³ñò³â, îë³ãàðõ³â òà äåìîêðàò³â. Property of Medvedchuk - Íåõàé.) ßêîþ âîíà áóäå åêîíîì³÷íî - íå ïðîáëåìà íàö³îíàëüíîãî ðóõó. Àëå òàêîãî ÷èñòîãî ðóõó â Óêðà¿í³ í³êîëè íå áóëî. ßê íàö³îíàë, òî îáîâ’ÿçêîâî ïîç³ö³îíóâàâ ñåáå äåìîêðàòîì ³ îð³ºíòóâàâñÿ íà Çàõ³ä. Âæå ³ òåðì³í ïðèæèâñÿ - íàö³îíàë-äåìîêðàò, õî÷à öå ñóòòºâå îáìåæåííÿ íàö³îíàëüíî¿ ³äå¿. (Äå æ íàø³ íàö³îíàë-êîìóí³ñòè? íàö³îíàë-îë³ãàðõè?)
Íàö³îíàëüíèé ðóõ ìຠïîâí³ñòþ äèñòàíö³þâàòèñÿ â³ä åêîíîì³÷íèõ ïðîáëåì. Ïðîäàæ çåìë³, ñîö³àëüí³ ïðîãðàìè ÷è ïðèâàòèçàö³ÿ íå ìàþòü ñòàâàòè æóïåëîì ëèøå íàö³îíàëüíî-ñâ³äîìèõ ³ íå ïîâèíí³ ñòàâàòè ì³æ óêðà¿íöÿìè.
ßê ïðèêëàä íàâåäó àëüÿíñ êîìóí³ñò³â ³ ÐÏÖ. Òèïîâèé ïðèêëàä ºäíàííÿ íà îñíîâ³, ÿêà íå ìຠí³÷îãî ñï³ëüíîãî ç ³äåîëîã³þ, ÿêó ìຠêîæíà ñòðóêòóðà. À ºäíàííÿ öå â³äáóâàºòüñÿ íà òîòàë³òàðí³é ³ ì³òîëîã³÷í³é îñíîâ³. ² íå íàö³îíàëüíèé ðóõ ìຠïðîòèñòàâëÿòèñÿ ¿ì, à äåìîêðàò³ÿ ³ â³äêðèòå ñóñï³ëüñòâî. ßêùî õòîñü ç íàö³îíàëüíîãî ðóõó ìຠòàê³ ïåðåêîíàííÿ - ÷óäîâî! Àëå íå òðåáà ï³äñòàâëÿòè íàö³îíàëüíèé ðóõ ï³ä óäàð ëèøå çà ñîö³àëüíîþ ïðîãðàìîþ.

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