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Date Posted: 08/23/01 16:53:22
Author: palwan
Subject: Re: men nimishqa é dep aldim
In reply to: palwan 's message, "men nimishqa é dep aldim" on 08/23/01 16:41:04

Essallam Tordashlar :
yuqarqi maqalamda men xatalishiptmen.bügün Waris Ependining maqalilirini qaytidin kóriwétip "Xosh xewer"namidiki maqaligha kózüm chüshti hem bu maqalidin,é dep élishning tilshunasliqqa xilap emes belki toghriliqini bayqidim.hem maqalining bu bólikini paydilinishinglargha sundum.
"(5) Qayta-qayta munazire arqiliq (men Türkleni, Azirilarni... misalgha aldim ), Mirsultan ependi, e(eynek) ni e dep alghan teqdirdimu ë(ëyiq) üchün ë ni ëlishqa bolmaydighanliqini, é(éyiq --- solgha yantu) yaki č(čyiq ---onggha yantu) dëgendek alsa yaxshiraq bolidighanliqini tekitlidi. Diqqet: Lëkin, e(eynek) ni e dep alsaq bolidu dep ening ipade bildürmidi. Aptor： Waris　http://www.serdarbiz.com　Waqit：2001-07-25.23:46:42　Kelgen Orni： 202.201.188.5"
buningdin kóreleymizki é dep élishni tilshunaslar qollaydiken,lekin ë ni anche qollimaydiken.undaqta yuqarqi maqalamdiki tehlillirimni mundaq ózgeritsem bolghidek.
yuqarqilarni mundaq alte xil ehwalgha bólüsh mümkin.
Tallash :
1.é sestimigha mas kelidu.tilshunasliqqimu mas kéledu.
2.ë özgertmise mas kelmeydu.tilshunaslarmu qollimaydu.
3.ó sestimigha mas kelidu.tilshunasliqqimu mas kélemdu??? (bu heqte yene izdinishke toghra kélidu)
4.ö özgertmise mas kelmeydu.tilshunaslarmu qollamdu???.(bu heqte yene izdinishke toghra kélidu)
5.ü ni séstimimu ,tilshunaslarmu qollaydu.
6.ú ni séstima qollaydu,tilshunaslar qollamdu????(bu heqte yene izdinishke toghra kélidu)

Hel qilish yoli:
1.séstima we tilshunaslar 1-xil tallashni qobul qilalaydu.séstima we tilshunaslar 2-xil tallashni qobul qilalmaydu.(yuqarqi ispatqa qarang)(bu heqte éniq birnerse dimigen,yeni shu maqalidin élindi:"(6) Axirida men ë(ëyiq) ningmu [e] (Bërtaniye Englizchisidiki "Water" ning axirdiki /er/ yeni [e] dep)deprek teleppuz qilinidighanliqini(ros tilidin bashqa tilda), hem uning shekil jehettinmu ö,ü lar bilen birdeklikni saqlap yëziqning güzellikige paydiliq ikenlikini otturgha qoydum. Buningghimu Mirsultan ependi qayil bolghandek qildi, lëkin "yenila mutixesisler gorupisi bir nime disun, mining dëginimla hesab emes..." DIDI"
2.séstima 3-xil tallashni qobul qilalaydu,tilshunaslarchu??.4-xil tallashni séstima qobul qilalmaydu,tilshunaslarchu??
3.séstima we tilshunaslar 5-xil tallashni qobul qilalaydu,shundaqla buni keng xelq ammisimu qobul qilalaydu,chünki ü ning bizde chungqur ammiwi asasi bar.6-xil tallash bolsa undaq qilalmaydu.
mesilining hel qilish yolidin qarighanda,é we ü ning mesilisi hel bolghandek qilidu.lekin ó bilen ö ning mesilisige kelsek yenila mesile mewjut.???
emdi bu yerdiki mesilini UYY din chiqip tehlil qilip baqayli UYY ógengenlerge melumki
UYY da ó ni beli baghlanghan O qilip alghan .undaqta beli baghlanghan O ni ö qilip élish yaki ó qilip élish jehette ammiwi asasqa ige emes.lékin bashqa tillargha murajet qilghinimizda ö qilip élish ehwali mewjut.?????
Kompyuter yéziqi bolghan UKY da mesilini kompyuterdin chiqish qilish muwaqip dep qaraymen.belkim buninggha tilshunaslarmu jiq birnerse dep ketmesliki mümkin.!!!shunga yenila ó qilip élish muwapiq dep qaraymen ,undaq bolmighinida tówendikidek ehwallar yüz berishi mümkin.
1.shu bir herp üchün kop qisim kishiler sestimisini özgertishi natayin !?buning bilen ular tajisi yoq herplerni qollinidu.yaki ózi bilgenche qollinidu.chünki ularning sharaiti yoq yaki özgertishni bilmeydu we yaki bu xil awarichiliqtin baldurraq qutulushni oylaydu.
2.az qisimlar qollishi mümkin chünki ular ózgertishni bilidu hem shundaq sharaiti bar.
3.bir mezgillik qollinishtin keyin ,kishiler yene qaytidin munazirini bashlaydu.
chünki ikkinji xil usulning tallinishi bilen jemiyitimizde tengla bölinish shekillengen bolidu.
Murajet :méningche barche güzelliklar ichide yenila kompyuter qatarliq eswaplarning bizge toghra chiqirip bergen heripi eng chirayliq , biz yüzeki güzellikni qoghlashsaq lekin kompyuter qatarliq eswaplar qalaymiqan chiqirip berse u chaghda biz qandaqmu ózimiz eng güzel dep turghan güzelning jamalini köreleymiz.????!!!!dunyada buningdinmu échinishliq ish bolamdu???!!!

Waqit：2001-08-13.21:52:33　

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