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Subject: Re: STARGATE / Kevin BASHING


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Date Posted: 08:50:42 09/02/01 Sun
In reply to: 's message, "STARGATE / Kevin BASHING" on 05:09:50 09/02/01 Sun

This is by far the best posting I have seen in this forum. Most of you whinners have no concept of risk vs reward.

I have entered a few of the programs with KS, but with the understanding that there was about a 95% chance I would lose it all. I know these risks and was willing to accept them for the chance of the pot of gold at the end of the rainbow. Maybe someday I will reach it and it may be with Kevin's help... if I don't, I will thank him for trying...

If you aren't willing to accept these risks, put your money in a CD at 3.5% per year.



>The level of immaturity, lack of responsibility and
>"Give Me a HANDOUT" attitude is so prevalent in most
>of these negative postings that I am embarrassed for
>YOU! I am embarrassed because I am a part of the same
>group of investors as you. A group that was
>pre-qualified by Kevin and supposedly a "Mature" group
>of "Savvy" investors who understood the relationship
>between "High Return/High Risk".
>A group who was tired of fighting the daily Internet
>Scams and Ponzi Schemes and was looking for some hope
>for a better future. Kevin stepped up to the plate
>and volunteered to personally move into the arena of
>private placements. He offered each of us an
>opportunity to join him. We did so with some "very
>explicit" statements regarding privacy in our
>Disclaimer/Waiver Agreements: e.g.
>
> 3.)"I WILL NOT DISCLOSE THE TERMS, CONDITIONS, OR
>PARTICULARS OF MY BUSINESS DEALINGS WITH MR. STRAUB
>WITH ANYONE.
>
>Yet the minute we, as a group, run into a snag, you
>have to run to the same "Ponzi-Minded Internet
>Community" and cry and whine that you have been
>treated unfairly, hoping someone will agree with you
>and feel sorry for you! You immediately throw YOUR
>PROMISES (D/W) to the wind and feel justified in doing
>this because things didn't go well for you in this
>particular venture.
>
>I personally feel that the only mistake Kevin has made
>is in being TOO LENIENT in selecting and maintaining
>members of this "Inner Circle of Elite Investors"!
>Some of you have been whiners and trouble-makers from
>the beginning and he, out of the goodness of his
>heart, allowed you another chance, and yet another
>chance, to stay with the group. He should have
>severed you upon the first inclination of your
>immature, greedy, I want a handout, attitudes.
>
>Have you ever been in the position of leadership with
>a large number of people? If you have, you know that
>there are hours and hours of additional effort
>required to lead any organization....paperwork,
>communications, hand-holding, problem
>resolution.....and all this on top of the REAL work of
>putting a trade together! And there is little thanks
>ever given for this extra effort. Instead, the minute
>something goes awry the little guys start throwing
>stones and demanding personal favors. This is not
>new, read the the Book of Exodus.
>
>My suggestion for you is to exit this group and
>immediately go back to the internet games and ponzis.
>There you will find thousands of like-minded whiners,
>and no one will get angry with you for complaining.
>Instead, they will be counting the money they fleeced
>from you and laughing all the while.
>If I sound angry, it is because I am angry! ...and
>very disappointed. (Not so much with the turnout of
>investments, as with the investors.)
>I thought I was part of an elite group of quality,
>mature, savvy investors. I did not expect to find
>this sort of thing going on in the "Inner Circle". I
>had great hopes and expectations of building a strong
>relationship with this group and one day meeting in
>person to discuss our mutual dreams, successes and
>growing pains.
>It is sad to see these hopes slowly sinking like the
>Titanic.
>
>Bob Miller

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