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Date Posted: 20:57:41 09/22/02 Sun
Author: Tracey~
Subject: about the PTBs
In reply to: 3Strikes 's message, "Yes. Except, they're not whims and fancies. The struggle is in earnest." on 20:02:41 09/22/02 Sun

>Think of it as three rats (Chaos, Bad PtB, Good PtB)
>fighting over a piece of cheese (Earth). Humans,
>vampires and earthly demons are akin to the bacteria
>on the cheese.

Have you pieced together who's with which group of PTBs yet? I guess we have Old Ones (formerly "Bad") and Ancients (formerly "Good"), and now Chaos (formerly ...Occupants?). Are those the only groups of PTB we have?

The Knights of Byzantium had time-travel, and were anti-chaos, which should put them in the "Good" camp. And the Oracles could manipulate time, but not human physiology -- or maybe they couldn't change Human Angel into a vampire because it required dark magic -- so it fits that the Knights were agents of the Oracles/Good PTB.

But the CoW does not take advantage of time travel (as far as we know, and I think they would if they could) -- nor do they shy away from dark magic. (In fact, Slayer was made from dark magic, according to Fray) Does this suggest that the CoW does not follow the Good PTB?

FE, Nyathalthrep(?), Sweet, Sahjihn, The Key, Eyghon, possibly Glory -- all agents of Chaos? (Oh, and Anyanka's head demon guy, whatever his name is) And you could probably throw vampires and Slayer into this group, too. Even if they don't want to be in this group, the Good and Bads probably look at them this way.

But what about Osiris and other supernatural deities that we've seen Willow, Tara, Giles, etc summon during dark magic rituals -- are these guys also of the Chaos Powers? They don't seem related to Old Ones, who aren't even here but want to come back; and they don't seem to be Ancients (who you have to use Oracles to reach, not dark magic).

(Trying to figure out what it would mean for Buffy to turn "evil" -- especially in light of the whole Shark/Dru thing which was brilliant :) I suppose if Buffy turned on the Good PTBs, they would think she was evil. And surely the Bad PTBs wouldn't like her protecting The Key.)

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