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Date Posted: 08:48:24 09/21/02 Sat
Author: 3Strikes
Subject: My comments. Some very good answers. Check the revised edition.
In reply to: webdeb 's message, "Here's my answers" on 07:17:11 09/21/02 Sat

1)No. check the revised edition. Good on the outcome though. But the methodology is incorrect.
2)Partially correct. It's not about Angel at all. What does the interaction between Shajan's race and the Bad PTB reveal?
3)
4)Check Rev.Ed
5)Check Rev. Ed
6)Very good on the sorrow. Check Rev.Ed
7)Yes. Very good. Check Rev. Ed.
8)No.
9)No.
10)
11)Structural. But the psycholgy aspect is very interesting indeed and could become very relevant.
12)Yes. Check Rev. Ed.
13)Not the answer I'm looking for, but your answers are also true in terms of the Iron Dice.
14)No.
15)No on the clarity. Yes on the rest. Check the Rev.Ed. Your answer is there! : )
16)Yes on The three. Yes on whether he would do it. Yes on who he would do it for. No on the motivation. What are the 3rd, 3rd and 3rd ? Your partial answer will make it in the revised edition! : )
Good Job!


>* He worries that he is not good enough for his
>friends and that he needs to have some sort of
>concrete role in the group to be worthy of them.
>
>Or as someone else said: Love, Loyalty, and Courage
>will lead him. Pride or Ignorance will deceive him.
>
>The Result: A very bad decision made by Xander for the
>best intentions causes harm to him and the one he
>wants to protect.
>
>
>
>2. Are the *Bad* PTBs always Bad ? Are the *Good* PTBs
>always good ? Though the answer to that has already
>been clearly stated. But not where you might think.
>NEW: If you've heard the piping voice, and been
>blinded by the white, you know what I'm referring to.
>
>They're the same. Wolfram and Hart's higher level
>partners probably have some connection to the same PTB
>that guides Angel.
>
>What happened there to prove that The Bad PTB's agenda
>was greater than simple *evil*?
>
>Angel was given a test of his "evilness." He was
>willing to snap Lilah's neck to get the Urn. The girl
>stops him and knowing that he is willing to do it is
>enough for her and gives him the urn. The little girl
>is one of an order of powerful beings who are EVIL,
>but prefer a more methodical and controlled evil. They
>dislike the chaos Sahjhan's species create with their
>destruction.
>
>
>
>3. Is Lurky the only purveyor of Afterlife in town?
>How *Tragic* would it be for one character to avail
>him/herself of the alternative? NEW: Maybe I should
>have uncapitalized Afterlife. Afterall, it's such a
>common occurence. Always? Well, maybe not.
>
>Becoming a vampire or the living dead is another form
>of afterlife and vamping must be pretty common.
>
>Start making connections. Apply symmetry and the Iron
>Dice. Who? Why? What's the structure?
>
>Eh...no clue. Need to think about that one.
>
>
>
>4. Is the map the territory? Is the Playground in your
>mind's eye the backward symbol or the reality? Think
>not only metaphor but reality, backward and forward.
>I'm referring to a real place.
>
>Reality is based on time. Humans are finite and can
>only see past and present. Demons are eternal but can
>only see the past and present (if they're not gifted
>with prophecy of some kind). Gods (PTB, FE, etc.) are
>eternal, outside of the timeline and can see past,
>present and future.
>
>The playground represents the past and present. Also
>Drusilla was in the playground with Angel.
>
>What else does it suggest? What question should we
>have been asking about Drusilla?
>
>Drusilla as a vampire should only be able to see past
>and present. But since she's been gifted with
>prophecy, she can also see the future.
>
>
>
>5. Is a Shark evil ? Is an Evil Shark with a *higher*
>purpose Evil?
>
>Drusilla is the Shark. If she's forced into it by the
>visions, how could Drusilla, who's been *twisted* into
>evil by Angelus, be evil.
>
>
>
>6. Who sings songs of things to come? Why do they sing
>of sorrow?
>
>Drusilla, Cordelia, Buffy, Faith Cassie, Spike and one
>more person not named yet. They see things yet to
>come, and they're sorrowful in order to prevent that
>sorrow - or some greater sorrow. so the sorrow - or
>some greater future sorrow - can be prevented!
>
>
>
>7. Let me rephrase old question 7. Upon further
>reconsideration, it is the weakest part of the
>speculation. Very possible. But not the only
>possibility. Upon the road of Fate, the Knight
>Descendant and the Knight Ascendant were Bound to
>meet. Asked the Child of Black and gold: "What did you
>give for Love ?" "Death and Life, my soul," answered
>the other. Asked the Childe of Gold and black: "What
>will you give for Love ?" "Life and Death, my soul,"
>answered the other. Which is the greater sacrifice ?
>
>One of the Knights is Spike and and the other is
>Xander. Both are travelling in opposite directions --
>vampire to human, human to vampire. Buffy calls
>Xander her "White Knight" and Anya calls him "My
>Knight in armor." Drusilla calls Spike "the wisest
>and bravest Knight in all the land."
>
>One gains a soul for love. One gives up a soul for
>love. The white knight sacrifices everything for love.
>This would define literary Romance.
>
>What would it take for Xander to do it? Under what
>circumstances ? For whom? When? Why?
>
>Xander would risk his love and life for Buffy, Willow,
>or Anya if it meant he could save them from death,
>protect them or die for them.
>
>* This would also fit Angel and Faith. Buffy calls
>Angel Faith's "brave knight" sarcastically when she
>sees him holding her in Sanctuary: "When she has her
>brave knight to protect her?" It's funny that Angel
>was never called Buffy's "Knight" in any was as far as
>I can remember.
>
>
>
>8. Did you catch the cross-over last year ? If you
>haven't, don't worry. It was gone in a blast.
>
>A soul was blasted into Spike by Lurky. A demon or
>part of a demon was blasted into Cordelia by Skip (or
>a demon like him.
>
>And how can it be a cross-over? Hint: An I'm not
>talking metaphorical cross-over either.
>
>Spike crossed over to becoming part human. Cordelia
>crossed over to becoming part demon.
>
>Do you believe in invisible hands?
>
>When Angel fell asleep, Cordelia entered his body. She
>used his hands to write down the information from her
>vision on the wall.
>
>I'm not sure if or how this applies to Spike. Were
>there invisible hands in the cave where Spike's trials
>were?
>
>
>9. "Gotta be with movin' forward," says Xander in
>Restless. "Like a shark with feet..." *Forward*? Where
>are they both moving forward to? Where are they going?
>For that matter where are we all going, though by
>different means?
>"Gotta be movin' forward" means "gotta be finding my
>destiny" or "gotta be looking to the future."
>
>Xander is not in the staying in the playground. He's
>not looking at his past or his present. He's thinking
>of his future. He's growing up, becoming an adult and
>moving on with life.
>
>A person's strictly defined view of life, events,
>people, things and reactions to them can set them on a
>good path. Unfortunately, having so closed a view and
>a path so small can be a hindrance when something
>drops on the path and they can't figure out how to
>move it to go around it.
>
>Giles, Buffy and Spike are left. They need to move
>forward to their future or destiny.
>
>
>
>10. If Holtz had been vamped, would he have still
>hated Angel/Angelus ? Do you think Angelus will have
>family problems when he comes to Sunnydale ?
>
>Not a clue.
>
>
>
>11. This clue is hidden in plain sight. Blatantly,
>insolently even. But in the Jossverse, applying the
>concept defined by the clue could result in some
>seriously eldritch geometry. : ) Unravel the clue and
>apply the concept upon the fulcrum of Restless, and
>watch a 7 years tale unfold.
>
>ANSWERED: "Supersymmetry," both mirror and true, short
>and long. Eldritch geometry, also Lovecraftian
>geometry. Insanely scary geometry that makes a
>horrible kind of sense in a non-euclidian way. Think
>fun house mirrors, or reversed mirrors. One of
>Lovecraft's favorite theme.
>
>Here's my answer: A person's hatred/dislike of a trait
>in another person is usually because it's a reflection
>of a trait within themselves. They are either are
>ignorant of it or deny it. The reverse is also true. A
>person's love or admiration of a trait in another
>person is usually because it's a reflection of a trait
>they lack or wish they could have. The hatred they
>usually deny, the love they usually recognize.
>
>What do Xander and Buffy hate the most? They hate
>evil, soulless things. Do they both become vampires or
>demons?
>
>
>
>12. That Xander would lay down his life for Willow,
>Anya or Buffy is a given. But would he kill the
>innocent for one of them?
>
>Buffy killed Angel when she was faced with saving the
>world. She was able to put the world before herself.
>Xander's loyalty is to his friends and those he loves
>and his motivations are driven by them. I think his
>loyalty and love is so blind that he would.
>
>
>
>13. What are these "things you can't protect yourself
>from?" If you knew them, it would blow your mind. A
>riddle based on what I hope happens. Too juicy to
>ignore, but won't necessarily make it to the screen.
>
>We can't protect ourselves from our future, our fate
>or the choices that we make.
>
>
>
>
>
>14. Rage, Passion, Hate
>What song precipitates their fate?
>Rage, Passion, Hate
>What Moon to set their course?
>Rage, Passion, Hate
>What star to find their way?
>Rage, Passion, Hate
>Will they strife? For whose fate?
>Rage, Passion, Hate.
>
>Rage, passion and hate result from anger. Anger that
>stores itself up for a long time. The opposite of
>anger is peace, love and understanding. Who's the
>they?
>
>
>
>15. When is Blindness a blessing, and Clarity the
>worst kind of Blindness? When is a Mistake not a
>mistake, and why will the difference be a cause for
>tears?
>
>Blindness is a blessing when you remain in ignorance
>of the truth staring right in front of you. Clarity is
>the worst kind of blindness when you REALIZE you have
>been blind to the truth staring right in front of you.
>
>A mistake is not a mistake when it is done
>intentionally. A mistake not done intentionally is
>usually do a person's wrong judgment or
>misunderstanding. This would be a cause for tears
>when they REALIZE the mistake is due to their
>blindness and by that time, it's usually too late to
>correct.
>
>
>
>16. Three of a kind. Third shall he be. But third,
>third and third? We shall see.
>
>Angel, Spike and maybe Xander.
>
>Would Xander accept to become evil (i.e no soul)
>knowingly if the Stakes were high enough?
>
>Yes.
>
>Why and for who would he do it?
>
>He would do it for Buffy - to have super strength and
>fight as an equal by her side. He would want a "super
>power" like Willow with her magic and Buffy with her
>Slayerness.
>
>Excellent catch about lurky. What kind of symmetry
>does it suggest?
>
>Vampires can remove a soul. Lurky can restore it.

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