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Date Posted: 19:37:36 01/10/03 Fri
Author: Nic
Subject: Great Post n/m
In reply to: Lora - Hartagold AmStaffs/APBTs 's message, "Definitely NOT typical of SchH trained APBTs or AST's!" on 21:11:21 01/09/03 Thu

>Overall, while there are a handful of the bulldog
>>types that have managed to earn schutzhund titles
>>(none to my knowledge have ever earned a FR III or
>>made it through the Dutch Ring or French Campagne),
>>they are not a breed suited to that type of training
>>or work.
>>
>>I share the opinion of many other working dog trainers
>>who say that the "talents and abilities" of today's
>>bulldog breeds are very limited when compared to the
>>same "talents and abilities" of other breeds from the
>>Working and Herding groups--and with a few exceptions,
>>the Sporting Group (Labs, Goldens Weimeraners).
>
>Hmmmmmm
>
>Maybe we need to get people from the Working Pit Bull
>Board to have a talk with these idiots!
>
>I guess he's forgetting about the AWDF team that took
>2nd place in the WORLD Championships in 2000, only
>seven TOTAL points behind the Dobe team. This is a
>team that was put together at the last minute- and in
>18 weeks went in and KICKED BUTT - the first FAST SchH
>team ever.
>
>Team members were:
>
>*Craig Purdue and Dancing Dog's Sweet Pea SchH1, OFA
>
>*Sandra Shaner & U-CDX R&D's Tetanus Lockjaw
>SchH3,CDX, TD
>
>*Leri Hanson and 'PR' The Goose SchH3,NPL1,OFA
>
>*Dan Guerra & Guerra's Sonny Boy SchH3, BST, OFA
>
>A clip from the story in FAST magazine: "As it turned
>out, Sweet Pea and Craig won the day by doing a
>PERFECT score in tracking, high tracking dog in trial,
>SchH1 National Champion and High Scoring Female. All
>with motivational training."
>
>Sweet Pea, (daughter of Guerra's Sonny Boy SchH3, BST,
>OFA x GrCh UCDX 'PR' Whole Lotta Rosie BH, WH SchH3,
>OFA) finished the trial with scores of 100-84-96.
>
>"The Goose" (GrCh 'PR' Hanson's Jo-Mite x UAG11
>U-UD'PR'Cheek's Red Baronness SchH3) scored 94-87-92.
>
>Sonny Boy (UCD GrCh'PR' Guerra's Beringer x Wilrox Red
>Tazmania) had scores of 88-73-95
>
>Tetanus (Essex R&L Lubbock Stubbs x R&D's Hard Candy
>Kisses) scored 90-91-92
>
>about Tetanus: "Upon being given the Platz command,
>his chin went to the ground and did not move from the
>grass for 15 minutes. you would have thought it was
>tacked down. The final icing on the cake was the news
>in the stadium of the tracking. One dog had scored a
>perfect track: 100. It was Sweet Pea. Gary Hanrahan,
>five time National Schutzhund USA champ congratulated
>Craig with "Not only did you score 100 but you did it
>in record time!"
>
>And not from this team, but another of the bull breeds
>was mentioned also:
>
>"An American Bulldog, Moxie, who at 19 inches and 59
>pounds, totally obliterated the trial helper in the
>courage test. "Little Moxie" repositioned the upright,
>six foot, 200 pound man off to his side, causing him
>to lose his grip on the attack baton and just about
>taking the sleeve off his arm, creating a five-second
>pause while the helper tried to gather himself
>together (unheard of!) then resume the attack."
>
>So, I guess maybe since JD and his buddies can't seem
>to train these dogs to do anything, maybe they need to
>stick to breeds they understand. The dogs are fine,
>they just need trainers that know what they are doing.

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