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Date Posted: 09:37:38 04/20/02 Sat
Author: stored
Subject: R1

Religion I


The Philosopher's Corner, (and its varied forums) is for those wishing to debate ideas in an
environment relatively free of personal attacks. This does NOT mean that ideas are not to be
challenged and/or heavily debated. Bringing arguments from another forum to this forum or any
other PC forum totally distorts the original message made, gives a biased slant and is
inappropriate. Standing firm and making one's case on its own merits is the intelligent choice.
Attacking and/or challenging an opinion is fair game.. Attacking someone personally is not.
--Susan

Alternative R1 forum
Benefits: length of posts are basically unlimited, and if webforums break down we'll have a
backup forum. :)








MESSAGES IN THIS FORUM ARE PRESENTED AS NEWEST TO OLDEST.

Pac1
In Response To dori
Friday April 19, 2002 at 22:29

I guess it's hard for you to know how frustrating it can be to a Catholic to have so much hatred
pouring out from people about our faith.

Dori, why do you always use the words "hate" / hatred to describe someone who posts
rebuttals to Catholic beliefs?

dori
In Response To Murray
Friday April 19, 2002 at 22:16

I guess it's hard for you to know how frustrating it can be to a Catholic to have so much hatred
pouring out from people about our faith, and every bit of it comes from ignorance and fear. I
think a site like Ron's is a good thing. He is a reasonable man to speak with and if people have
questions about Catholicism, he knows it inside out. Remember, also, he has lived both faiths.
He was a Moody bible institute student who spouted off the same kind of anti-Catholic stuff
you see from most antagonists on these forums.

Ten Megaton Solution
In Response To Murray
Friday April 19, 2002 at 21:02

So you did. (G)

See ya later.

Murray
In Response To TMS 19:57
Friday April 19, 2002 at 20:42

Beat you to the punch with that one. See my 19:07.

Ten Megaton Solution
In Response To Coinkydink
Friday April 19, 2002 at 20:21

Many times they post gross htings about me and others which I'd like to refute, but there
isn't any place for it.

No. That's absolutely correct. There isn't any place for it, and there' no reason to grant them
the honor of noticing them.

Be a duck, let it slide off your back.

Ten Megaton Solution
In Response To A Question
Friday April 19, 2002 at 19:57

If someone puts up a catholic room, how do they provide the holy water so people can cross
themselves when they enter?

(Sorry, couldn't resist...)

*Coinkydink
In Response To Dori
Friday April 19, 2002 at 19:54

"but we're just having leftover spaghetti and meatballs. Of course, it always tastes better the
second day to me. 8-) " Yep, we're having leftover stew...that always tastes better the 2nd day
too...yum! Except the baby ate most of the carrots out of it yesterday...yuk, orange poopy! :P
Spfft!

Murray
In Response To dori
Friday April 19, 2002 at 19:54

"But remember... that is the reason FOR the room--to counter the hundreds of
anti-Catholic sites."

Well, Doris, we've only got so much time on this globe. The basic thrust of Scripture as I see it
is to be proactive. To go forward into new territory. And, if anyone doesn't receive you, shake
the dust of your feet. Anyone who does anything at all in this world will encounter criticism and
resistance. I've looked at this closely and it seems the people who spend the least time
contending with their critics and opponents get the most done for their cause. Like I told Basil,
I just keep moving forward preaching and teaching what I've learned and feel can be of benefit
to others. And, it seems to be working.

*Coinkydink
In Response To Ctaj
Friday April 19, 2002 at 19:45

REgarding Ron's anti-venom site you asked, "I think his aim is to have a place where
Catholics can refute much of the anti-Catholic hatred so prevalent in society. Who's stopping
them from refuting it here?" The Mods object when we bring in things form Acne's
forum...Many times they post gross htings about me and others which I'd like to refute, but
there isn't any place for it. I usually just let it go. I probably still will, because a Catholic
defensive site isn't really fitting to my needs.

*Coinkydink
In Response To Dori
Friday April 19, 2002 at 19:36

"I can't quite figure out the agenda of the current nay-sayers." Who are you talking about here?
Ctaj & Ten Megs have been up front about thier purpose...it is to have their say about what
christians tout as the truth of the Bible or as they call it "God's Word". Is their opinion not
allowed because it differs from that of others? TB2 & myself have a different agendas,which
we have already stated many times quite plainly. Who else did you have in mind? Why not ask
them thier agenda? If we were to ask you yours, wouldn't you feel like we were putting you on
the defensive or something? Think about it. :)

dori
In Response To Murray and Sim
Friday April 19, 2002 at 19:24

It is starting to storm and there's lightning, so I'll have to split. Catch ya later, I hope. C'ya!

dori
In Response To Murray
Friday April 19, 2002 at 19:20

Hee hee... you're on a roll, hon. It is your call about visiting there. I know some won't go
because they suspect propaganda will be spouted. But remember... that is the reason FOR the
room--to counter the hundreds of anti-Catholic sites.

*Coinkydink
In Response To Gerry
Friday April 19, 2002 at 19:08

You said, " The definition of a Christian is to be a follower of Jesus Christ and His teachings.
What did Cayce have to say about that. I would guess that kind of leaves old Thomas
Jefferson out too. " I wonder about that...what if a person like Jefferson followed only what
Jesus taught and left out all that was said later about him by apostles, saints and church
councils? That's what Jefferson attempted to do...I think I'll leave the judging of his soul to god,
but his intent seems directed to the right teachings.

Murray
In Response To dori
Friday April 19, 2002 at 19:07

Not so sure I can go into a Catholic room. I've never had instructions. Apparently there is
something you have to do with holy water on the way in. LOL

dori
In Response To Murray
Friday April 19, 2002 at 19:03

Grin... I don't think Ron needs any help in decimating that crew over there. He made that
room as a place to to counter the stuff they post. I look in there every now and then to see
what the poor things are harping on, but there is no way to respond to their lies if one wants to
because if we do here, it gets deleted. Maybe you'll come to his Catholic room now and then.
I am sure he'd like that.

Murray
In Response To dori
Friday April 19, 2002 at 19:01

How can you be sure? LOL

dori
In Response To Murray
Friday April 19, 2002 at 18:59

LOL! Not in MY meat loaf!!!

Murray
In Response To TMS 18:47
Friday April 19, 2002 at 18:59

My thoughts exactly. Ron invited me to post there to counter what is going on in the other
place. He even gave me a password. Do you want it? grin Just kidding, Ron. But, the truth is,
I've never been to the other place nor do I intend to go. Plus, my style is to stay on the
proactive side as much as possible and stay away from being against stuff. Just keep preaching
the Gospel in other words.

Murray
In Response To dori
Friday April 19, 2002 at 18:48

It's true what you say. The meat loaf thing is now a dead horse. Or maybe it's made from a
dead horse. :-)

Ten Megaton Solution
In Response To Ron B
Friday April 19, 2002 at 18:47

You're "Anti-venom" page is amusing, but wouldn't it be better just to let the snakes stew
unobserved? Seems like you're just encouraging fools who only want attention anyway.

Just IMO. Sheesh, just remember, this little atheist bothered ol' Josie/ACNR/Sybil as much as
anyone. He just hates, and he doesn't care who he hates, he hates everyone. Wouldn't the best
thing be to simply stand quietly by and watch the Kilkenny cats eat each other?

dori
In Response To Murray and Sim
Friday April 19, 2002 at 18:34

Murray: Yes, I think we've exhausted meat loaf... giggle.

Sim: But that breakfast sounds awesome! Hee hee... I'll bet you hated to leave that place, hon.

Sim 2
In Response To Ya'll
Friday April 19, 2002 at 18:32

I think my grapes and apple are gone, time to start "disposing".

Later. (Maybe)

Sim 2
In Response To Dori
Friday April 19, 2002 at 18:30

They fixed a "breakfast" of eggs, cheese, ham, fried rice, peppers, spices, that I loved, I even
order it sometimes in the evening.

I don't recall "everything" it included, but it sure was good.

I'd like to find someone to show me how to fix that meal.

Sim 2
In Response To Dori
Friday April 19, 2002 at 18:25

I'll bet you never had marshmallow fried rice,

Not that I recall,but then my "memory tape" has a few "blank spaces", kinda like "Nixon's
tapes", nowatimean???

Murray
In Response To dori
Friday April 19, 2002 at 18:22

I draw the line at swapping recipes, just so you know. grin

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