VoyForums
[ Show ]
Support VoyForums
[ Shrink ]
VoyForums Announcement: Programming and providing support for this service has been a labor of love since 1997. We are one of the few services online who values our users' privacy, and have never sold your information. We have even fought hard to defend your privacy in legal cases; however, we've done it with almost no financial support -- paying out of pocket to continue providing the service. Due to the issues imposed on us by advertisers, we also stopped hosting most ads on the forums many years ago. We hope you appreciate our efforts.

Show your support by donating any amount. (Note: We are still technically a for-profit company, so your contribution is not tax-deductible.) PayPal Acct: Feedback:

Donate to VoyForums (PayPal):

Login ] [ Contact Forum Admin ] [ Main index ] [ Post a new message ] [ Search | Check update time | Archives: 123 ]
Subject: POLLS WITH STORIES ABOUT REAL-LIFE NEDICAL ORDEALS IN KIDHOOD AND ADULTHOOD


Author:
Knut Holt
[ Next Thread | Previous Thread | Next Message | Previous Message ]
Date Posted: 08:30:46 02/01/19 Fri



SCROLL DOWN TO SEE THE LATEST TESTAMONIALS

Interesting research polls about strange or intrusive medical and psycological exams or procedures kids and adults are subjected to. You can use these polls to tell your own history or the history of someone you know about. The polls already have a lot of interesting testamonials you can read and comment upon.

If the links are not active, you can copy them and use them in the address line of your browser where they will work.
-------------------------------------------------


Extended, mandatory well-child examination under anesthesia - where the kid undergo endoscopic inspections in the intimate zone and other body areas, extensive ultrasound inspections, ex-rays of several body zones, intrusive specimen collection and body function testings:

http://www.misterpoll.com/polls/611395

-----------------------------------------------
-----------------------------------------------

Poll about cystoscopy or bladder inspections in kids and adults:

http://www.misterpoll.com/polls/615327

---------------------------------------------------
---------------------------------------------------

Secret, intimate, intrusive medical exams and procedures under anesthesia on kids and adults:

http://www.misterpoll.com/polls/608976

--------------------------------------------------------------
--------------------------------------------------------------

Called in for a strange physical or psycological exam:

http://www.misterpoll.com/polls/605807


-----------------------------------------------
-----------------------------------------------

Alien abduction - investigation of memories of alien abduction or similar events, like abduction for surveillance and experimentation by governments or mafias

https://www.misterpoll.com/polls/625773

-------------------------------------------------
--------------------------------------------------


All the polls also have a message board. The individual stories of each participant will be published here. Here you can add comments or ask questions.


Knut Holt

aquila_grande@yahoo.no

Please also see his website with interesting information about alternative treatments, fitness and sex

http://www.abicana.com/health_information.htm

http://www.mydeltapi.com/erotic-products.htm

-----------------------------------------------------------
-----------------------------------------------------------
THE LATEST RESULTS FROM MY POLLS



Girl 8yo, North America, used as research guinea pig and for sexual abuse

I am a female. I was a school-aged child, 8 Year old, year 2000 or after, in North America. I was examined at home, in a house in the country. Who did the exam? about 50 different men.


OVERVIEW OF THE EXAM

They examined my genitals. They examined my rectal zone. They inserted instruments into my urinary opening. They inserted instruments into my vagina. They inserted instruments into my rectal opening.


ARRANGEMENTS

I was sedated but awake.


THE ORDEAL STEP BY STEP

First enema and vaginal douch. Then strapped down on exam table. Then each man examined me. Then each man used my mouth for intercource. At least enema and vaginal douch.


REASON AND JUDGEMENT

What do you think was the reason for this exam? molestation. What is your opinion about thios experience? I was excited during the experience and i get excited remembering it.


URINARY AND GENITAL EXAM

They did not examne my urinary system. They palpated my outer female genitals. They spread my genital lips to look inside. They examined my vagina with a speculum. They took speciments (pap smears etc) from my vagina with an instrument.

They performed an outer ultrasound exam of my female genitals and lower tummy area. They perfomed an ultrasound exam through my vagina. They also felt my uterus and overies.


RECTAL EXAM

They took some measurements inside my rectum or bowel with a long tube-like instrument.


OTHER MOMENTS AND FOLLOW-UPS

The exam took a very long time. New exams as follow up, mostly with dildos and vibrators.


COMMENTS

By 50 men perfoming these thing in one session, the account is not possible. But I think this ordeal might have repeated itself many times, possible through some years, and then as many as 50 men and women might have examined her, or the same persons repeating it. The anesthesia might have distorted the memory and left an impression of 50 men doing this in one session.

I guess that the girl was used as gunea pig in a kind of governmental project where one researched develoment of body structures in children and tested sexual reactions. The things called dildos might have been medical research instruments. A permanet reaction involving exitement by memorizing the ordeal might then have developed.

The parents probably got money for letting the girl be used, but they might have been forced to let the girl be used too. Using a child this way is of cource abuse, not less serious than ordinary sexual abuse.

But it is possible that the scientists also began using the girl for sexual acts too, so that the allready abusive research activities got combined with sexual abuse in the ordinary sense too. This is not the first account I have seen that points to this happeneing. So the oral intercourse mentioned may still be somethinmgs that really happened. But also this could have been handlings with some scientific instrument in her mouth.

Knut Holt

http://www.mydeltapi.com

------------------------------------------------------------
------------------------------------------------------------
Girl 14yo-15yo - Assesment about and therapy for body attitudes and feelings

I am a female. It occured at 14-16 years old, 8 times each year, 1998-2002, in North America, Canada.

I was examined in a health centre,therapist's office specifically. I took my bike to the ordeals. 2 psychologists, a man and a woman examined me. Also were present other patients mostly older teens.


OVERVIEW OF THE EXAMS

They examined my genitals. They performed a psychological exam. They made interrogations about my social relations and my daily life. Any other kind of exam. It was a Desensitization therapy to get me used to being seen naked. The first session involved slowly being encouraged to disrobe but from then on it was naked to start.

Many patients were getting therapy in a group, encouraged to look at each other closely and explore.


THE ORDEALS STYEP BY STEP

The first thing they did with me:. had us all undress stark naked. Secondly sat and had long therapeutic discussion of the human body and why it is okay to be nude with others. Them had us look at each other and compare parts. The psychologists also disrobed and illustrated parts on themselves (their whole bodies were shaved). Then encouraged us to shave our pubic hair so our genitals would be more visible for the group. They also discussed our fears about our bodies The exam ended by reminder to stay nude in our homes and encouragement to try undressing in front of friends. They showed us a lot of pictures and videos of a variety of body types different genitals etc . We were each videotaped urinating and the video shown to the group.


REASON AND JUDGEMENT

What do you think was the reason for this exam? My parents wanted me to not care about being seen naked anymore. What is your opinion about thios experience? It's strange because they raised me to be VERY shy about my body until this point.


PELVIC ASSESSMENT

I perhaps do not remember exactly how they examined my urinary system but they did something down there like: gently touched my urethra, palpated my outer female genitals, spread my genital lips to look inside.

They also encouraged me to touch myself and show others how wet and sticky I got, because it's part of the body.

They spread my cheeks and examined extarnally my rectal zone. They examined my rectum with an inserted finger.


FURTHER MOMEMENT

A third psychologist came in once to ask us individually how we were feeling about this therapy. We were encouraged to talk about excitement or fetishes involving nudity to illuminate our hangups .The exam took a very long time. each session took 3 hours.


DIAGNOSIS AND FOLLOW-UP

It took me a long time to not be moritified but it was exciting and I did eventually get comfortable New exams as follow up please specify: This therapy went on 8 times a year for 4 years


COMMENTS

I guess that the parents had concerns about the bodily development of this girl and for possible sexual activities which they might not approve. They then wanted somebody to check her and wanted also to make her willing to be intimately checked by the parents and for this reason consulted the psychologists.

I guess that the whole of this therapy was not exactly what the parents wanted, and that they did not understand what happened in the first place but might have accepted the whole of it because they also got the assurance they wanted. I guess that the parents all the way talked with the psychologists about findings related to their concerns.

This kind of therapy seemed bo be offered around the world from 1970es and up to the early 2000es. Nowadays, however, therapists that offer this kind of therapy run the risk of being busted for sexual abuse if they offer it by own initiative.

But ordeals like this probably still occur as research projects instituted and approved by the government.

It is diificult to know of this therapy was something offered by the government, or something these thearpists had established. It looks however that parts of the ordeal also was twisted in a way that gave the therapists themselves sexual gratification.

Knut Holt

http://www.mydeltapi.com



--------------------------------------------------------------
---------------------------------------------------------------

Boy 18yo with sister 17yo, N.Am - Extensive internal inspections, samlings, adjustments

I am male. It happened in North America. 2015 or later 18 years old. The police ordered the example. We were told the date when both siblings brother 18 and sister 17 and both parents were due to appear.

My parents drove me to the exam, at a special establishment used for these type of exams. It happened to kids that had been treated or examined by a psychologist or psychiatrist beforehand. My parents took us to rehearsal by car. It was only us in the rehearsal.


PREPARATIONS AND ANESTHESIA - OVERVIEW

I was not allowed to eat some time before the exam. I was totally naked through all the procedures. I had to strip totally naked before the exam. They placed me upon a simple examination table. They placed me upon an advanced surgical table. They placed me upon something like a dentist's chair but with devices to lift my legs onto.

I was placed to lay on my back with my legs flexed up, spread and mounted upon two devices. I was placed to lay on my stomach with my legs flexed down and spread. I got IVs tubes into blood vessels in an arm. I got a device on a finger or a toe to measure pulse and oxygen in my blood. I got a blood pressure monitor wrapped around an arm or a leg.

I got electrodes on my cheast, stomach, hip region, legs and head.

I got a tube or wire in through my urethra. I got a tube or sond in through my anus. I got something to swallow. I was put completely to sleep.


PREPARATIONS AND ANESTHESIA AS EXPERIENCED

Upon arrival we received some pills me 2 and sister 3 and saw to it that we swallowed them. Then the parents left and we waited about half an hour. Then we had to take off our clothes completely and i was surprised that avery shy sister had completely stripped off in front of me.

Then we were weighed and measured in height and all parts of the body including the genital organs and took many photographs. The nurse was very painful to me as she measured my urethra depth and penis, and to my sister when she measured her urethra depth and her vagina.

We saw our parents' clothes in the dressing room and when they led us to the examination i saw our mother standing naked with her hands behind her head through the open door.


EXAMINATIONS WITH EXTERNAL EQUIPMENT

They performed an EEC (electroencephalogram) - functional test of the brain with electrodes on the head. They performed an ECG functional test of the heart function with electrodes on my chest and other body areas.

They performed an analysis of my breathing and oxygen uptake where I had to breath into a tube. I had to do some physical work like cycling or running on a threadmill when the ECG and breathing analysis was performed. They did some other type of test with advanced machines.

They examined my head, neck, shoulder area, upper body, stomach area, hip area, legs with an ultrasound device or something similar.

They took x-ray pictures of my chest, hip area and limbs.

They used electrodes to record functions inside my head, my cheast, my belly and my limbs.


They examined my genitals with an ultrasound device. They had electrodes at my genitals to record functions in this area.


INTERNAL PROCEDURES

After examination they shaved our entire body and wiped us out with disinfectant and placed us on the operating table where we fell a sleep shortly.

I cannot remember any internal procedure like those mentioned.


ARRANGEMENTS AFTER THE PROCEDURE

They held me inconscious for some hours. I had breathing tube.

After waking up our hips ached very badly, our urethra and rectum burned. Our belly was bloated and there was a hole in it. My brother was circumcised. We both had tubes in the urethra and in the rectum. We lay with our hands behind our heads and legs wide apart and completely naked.

I had IVs into blood vessels. I had electrodes on my head. I had electrodes on my body. I had catheter into my bladder. I had a tube going in through my anus. I had a tube hoing in through my nose or down into my stomach. I had a tube through a opening in my belly. I lay with my legs in stirrups some time after the exam.

I lay naked under a blanket after the exam. When I woke up for a while I was lying completely naked and there were a lot of people around me. Electrodes were attached to our entire body for the night and covered with a blanket.

The doctor examined us again in detailin the morning, removed the tubes from the urethra and the rectum, and after the clothes my parents and i went home. We asked our parents if they were also on examination. They told us they were coming to me right away.

After a few days we found out that they were both shaved and the father was also circumcised. For a week we were burned by aurinalysis tube and we also had gases and gel coming out. After a month the school doctor examined us both and told us that in six monts the examination would berepeated.


THE SCHOOL I ATTENDED

I attended public boarding school.


COMMENTS

The arrangements after the exam clearly shows that something not remembered due to anesthesia surely also happend, which are: Cystoscopy and probable inspection up into each kidney. Overview of the pelvic area with ultrasong probe inserted into the anus for the boy and probably the vagina for the girl. Vaginal examination of the girl with speculum and probably scope.

Endoscopic examination of the whole colon through the anus. Endoscopic examination in the upper stomach through the mouth. Sampling of tissue between the organs in the stopmach.

Also some adjustments were done in the lower digestive system and urinary system, propbably to regularize body functions and sexuality.

This is a standardized procedure used on children in selected societies in all parts of the World and it seems to be coordiated by an international unit, possibly WHO, and it occurs more now than ever. It has gone on for several decades, but it is steadily extended and modernized with new equipment. In spite of how common it is, it is mostly not told about to the public, and when it occurs, it often comes as a surprize both to parents and the child. 6-7yo, 11-12yo and 15-16yo are typical ages for the procedure, but it also occur often at 18yo.

Some societies uses it on all children, others on childen with special concerns, and still others on a selected percentage of children. Curiously some societies does it mostly on the boys, but others mostly on the girls.

The purpose of the procedure is surveillance of the young population, research and screening for diseases and abnormalities. Often they also take out tissue, probably to be used in research, for production of vaccines or to use in treatment of other patients. The circumcision in this case also had the purpose of stealing tissue.

Since the police in cooperation with the school ordered the ordeal, one purpose was probably also to hunt for signs of sexual activities not approved by the society and to conform body functions to strict standards set by the society and the school. The basic procedure is often extended for these purposes.

Whatever was the ultimate purpose of the happening, what happened to this boy and the family must be categorized as abuse upon the family by authorities in the society. The police officers and authorities at the school were probably given money to select kids for the exam.


Knut Holt

http://www.mydeltapi.com



--------------------------------------------------------------
--------------------------------------------------------------

Boy, North America pelvic and other internal inspections at all ages from 3 to 18.

I am male.. It happened in North America om the period 1980-1999, every year from age 2 to 18, except age 12.

My parent took me to the hospital to have the exam each year. My parents drove me to the exam at a special establishment used for these type of exams. All children with some kind of health problem had the exam.


PREPARATIONS

I was not allowed to eat some time before the exam. They washed me before the exam. I was totally naked through alll the procedures. The staff took my clothes of some time before the anesthesia had made its effect, or had to strip totally naked before the exam depending on my age.

They placed me upon an advanced surgical table. I got a device on a finger or a toe to measure pulse and oxygen in my blood. I got a blood pressure monitor wrapped around an arm or a leg. I got electrodes on my cheast and on my stomach and hip region.

I got anesthesia gas to breath in through a mask. I was put completely to sleep, but I woke up ocationally during the procedure despite anesthesia given.


EXAMINATION WITH EXTERNAL EQUIPMENT

They examined me with an ultrasound device or something similar at my head and neck, upper body, stomach area, shoulder area, hip area and genitals.

They took x-ray pictures of my chest, stomach, shoulder area, hip area and my limbs.

They used electrodes on my head, chest and belly to record body functions.



INTERNAL INSPECTIONS

They ispected the inside of my nose with a scope. They inspected the inside of my throut with a scope.

They inspected the inside of my urethra and bladder with a scope. They inspected my anus with a speculum.


ARRANGEMENTS AFTER THE EXAM

I had IVs into blood vessels. I just lay some time in a bed to recover. I lay naked under a blanket after the exam. I stayed in the hospital overnight until my parent came to get me.

I went to some school for kids with special needs.


COMMENTS

This looks a standardized procedure used on children in selected societies in all parts of the World and it seems to be coordiated by an international unit, possibly WHO, and it occurs more now than ever.

There are certain details in this procedure not told about in this account, but that I am almost sure also happened, but probably not remembered due to the anesthesia. Those are: Inspection of the colon with a scope, inspection with a scope down into the upper stomach and inspection of the pelvic area with a sond inserted into the anus. Inspection up into each kidney also probably happened.

The procedure has gone on for several decades, but it is steadily extended and modernized with new equipment. In spite of how common it is, it is mostly not told about to the public, and when it occurs, it often comes as a surprize both to parents and the child.

Some societies uses it on all children, others on childen with special concerns, and still others on a selected percentage of children. Curiously some societies does it mostly on the boys, but others mostly on the girls.

6-7yo, 11-12yo and 15-16yo are typical ages for the procedure. But children attending schools for those with special needs tend to have it more often, but all parts of the procedure may not occur everyu time.

The purpose of the procedure is surveillance of the young population, research and screening for diseases and abnormalities. Often they also take out tissue, probably to be used in research, for production of vaccines or to use in treatment of other patients.

It would be interesting if the repondent could comment more about the exams and arrangements in the procedure at the age 7, age 11 and at the age 18, so if the answarer reads this please comment on these ages especially, since it will give a lot of interesting information about the development of the procedure.

Knut Holt

http://www.mydeltapi.com



-------------------------------------------------------------
--------------------------------------------------------------

Girl, 12yo, Washington, internal inspections in all body parts.

I am female. It happened in North America, Washington. 1990-1999, 12 years old. I was told nothing more then I have a check up with my dr.
I had gotten my period and was told I need a check up. My parents drove me to the exam. At a doctors office. A selected percentage of the children in my school of the age group had the test.


PREPARATIONS

They washed me before the exam. I was given a gown but was naked under the gown in the time I stayed awake. They placed me upon a simple examination table. They also placed me upon something like a dentist's chair but with devices to lift my legs onto.

I was placed to lay on my back with my legs flexed up spread and mounted upon the two devices. I was placed to lay on my left side. I got IVs tubes into blood vessels in an arm.

I got a blood pressure monitor wrapped around an arm or a leg. I got a tube or wire in through my urethra. Parts of my body got numbed by a shot with a syringe. I got anesthesia gas to breath in through a mask. I got some numbing and lubricating cream injected into my urinary opening.


The anesthesia worked somewhat differnetly at various parts of the procedure: Some time took away pain and made me relaxed but I was conscious. Other time he anesthesia made me sleep mostly but I woke up occationally.

It was a standard exam until I got a shot I felt numb and spaces out
. This is when I was taken through to a different area of the building. It was more like an operating theater.


EXAMINATION WITH EXTERNAL EQUIPMENT

They took chest x-ray pictures. They examined my genitals with an ultrasound device.


INTERNAL INSPECTIONS

They took specimens from my throut with a tube.

They inserted a scope through my urethra and inspected my bladder. Through that scope they also inserted a tube to take specimens.

They used a speculum in my vagina. They took specimens from my vagina with a tube. They inspected my vagina with a scope. They inspected me through my vagina with an ultrasound probe. The doctor explored my vagina with a finger.

The doctor explored my anus with a finger. They inspected me through my anus with a rigid scope. I remember a deep burning presure and humiliation.


ARRANGEMENTS AFTER THE EXAM

I had IVs into blood vessels. I had catheter into my bladder. I lay with my legs in stirrups some time after the exam. I then lay naked under a blanket after the exam. Mom drove me home.


THE SCHOOL I ATTENDED

I attended ordinary daytime school. Regular state run.

COMMENTS

This is a standardized procedure used on children in selected societies in all parts of the World and it seems to be coordiated by an international unit, possibly WHO, and it occurs more now than ever. It has gone on for several decades, but it is steadily extended and modernized with new equipment. In spite of how common it is, it is mostly not told about to the public, and when it occurs, it often comes as a surprize both to parents and the child. 6-7yo, 11-12yo and 15-16yo are typical ages for the procedure.

Some societies uses it on all children, others on childen with special concerns, and still others on a selected percentage of children. Curiously some societies does it mostly on the boys, but others mostly on the girls. Some uses it on girls when they have got their first period.

The purpose of the procedure is surveillance of the young population, research and screening for diseases and abnormalities. Often they also take out tissue, probably to be used in research, for production of vaccines or to use in treatment of other patients.

Possibly they also used a flexible scope through her anus to inspect the whole of her colon, and a flexible scope all the way through her mouth down in her stopmach, but was unconscious during these tests.

Knut Holt

http://www.mydeltapi.com

[ Next Thread | Previous Thread | Next Message | Previous Message ]


Post a message:
This forum requires an account to post.
[ Create Account ]
[ Login ]
[ Contact Forum Admin ]


Forum timezone: GMT-8
VF Version: 3.00b, ConfDB:
Before posting please read our privacy policy.
VoyForums(tm) is a Free Service from Voyager Info-Systems.
Copyright © 1998-2019 Voyager Info-Systems. All Rights Reserved.