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Date Posted: 09:16:00 03/14/02 Thu
Author: WOG
Author Host/IP: 64.187.5.73
Subject: Well if they are inspired of God they do
In reply to: squeak 's message, "Are you kidding me?" on 09:58:30 03/13/02 Wed

Please take NO offense squeak for Satan whispers to us all.
It is up to us whether we choose to listen to those whispers or not. It really doesn't matter if hell is in the OT though does it? Jesus himself brought out the reality of it's existence. The warning is there though.

Eccl 12:13-14
13 Let us hear the conclusion of the whole matter: fear God and keep His commandments, for this is man's all.
14 For God will bring every work into judgment, including every secret thing, whether good or evil. (NKJ)







Description of the Complete Jewish Bible

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For those who have enjoyed Dr. Stern's Jewish New Testament you will be pleased to hear that the Complete Jewish Bible has been completed. This Bible provides a comprehensive introduction, explaining how this Bible came to be and how to get the most out of reading it; an excellent pronunciation glossary; and detailed maps to aid in understanding historical events. A unique feature of this translation is that it follows the Hebrew Bible order of the Tanakh - the order with which Jesus (Yeshua) was familiar. I makes no separation between the Old and New Testaments. The Complete Jewish Bible shows that the Word of God, from Genesis to Revelation, is a unified book.


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The Complete Jewish Bible not only offers insight into the Bible's original culture and language, but also connects theology that was based on anti-Semitic, anti-Torah mindset.

New International Version Complete Jewish Bible

Jeremiah 31:33

"This is the covenant I will make with the house of Israel ...," declares the Lord. "I will put my law in their minds and write it on their hearts..."

(Yirmeyahu 31:33)

"This is the covenant I will make with the house of Isra'el after those days," says ADONAI: "I will put my Torah within them and write it on their hearts ..."


Romans 10:4 Christ is the end of the law ...


For the goal at which the Torah aims is the Messiah



About the Author

David H. Stern earned a Ph.D. in economics at Princeton University and was a professor at UCLA. In 1972 he came to believe in Yeshua as the Messiah, after which he received a Master of Divinity degree at Fuller THeological Seminary and did graduate work at the University of Judaism. In 1979 the Stern family immigrated to Israel. They now live in Jerusalem with their two children and are active in Israel's Messianic Jewish community.

s> Jesus was speaking of a literal place. It literally happened and is over.

W> When did it end? Where did it end? If you say at the cross, Paul and John were not convinced.

s> He gives men over to "burn in lust for one another" or "our hearts burned within us" it is actually speaking of a literal burning? There is a burn that is far deeper than literal fires. It actually consumes and changes people for the better.

W> What burning changes men for the better? Surely not the burning of Rev.20. It's just not there.

Rev 20:12-15
12 And I saw the dead, small and great, standing before God, and books were opened. And another book was opened, which is the Book of Life. And the dead were judged according to their works, by the things which were written in the books.
13 The sea gave up the dead who were in it, and Death and Hades delivered up the dead who were in them. And they were judged, each one according to his works.
14 Then Death and Hades were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death.
15 And anyone not found written in the Book of Life was cast into the lake of fire. (NKJ)

We can start another discussion on the Sovereignty of God. Actually, I think sovereignty is the real issue.

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