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Date Posted: 15:52:37 02/01/02 Fri
Author: Manda
Author Host/IP: 213.1.130.216
Subject: hi DJ (bringing it up here!)

DJ,

May I recap? Have I remembered right?

You grew up in a Christian family, attending church regularly, and went forward (of your own volition) and prayed a prayer of commitment at age 9, at a camp, which you had attended along with other children (who also made a commitment?)

If that is right, could I ask you what your opinion is of the evangelising of children? You say you were not pressured to prayer this prayer of commitment - presumably you mean you were not pressured by the adults there. Do you think it is possible that children in those situations might feel a sort of "nice pressure" feeling if other kids are doing this thing and perhaps being made to feel like it was a real special and cool thing to do?

I personally would not want my almost 9 year old to go away to a Christian camp because I believe if she did, she would face pressure. I believe she is not yet in a position to sufficiently understand/exercise her own free will, and want her to be free to think about such things without being under pressure (nice or otherwise).

Recap part 2! I believe you said that you *were* set up when you were 17, *set up* to be influenced/pressurised into praying the prayer of commitment again. I was wondering if you could tell me a bit about how it felt for you at the time; what was going on at the time, when it was that you realised you were being set up, how you felt about it at the time and just after.

Sorry for so many questions, but I am finding this quite interesting.

take care

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Replies:

Up here DJ -- WOG, 17:29:17 02/01/02 Fri
- hey W.O.G. sorry to butt in! -- Manda, 18:03:53 02/01/02 Fri
  - OK if you don't want to share threads -- WOG, 20:58:33 02/01/02 Fri
- No, I had a relationship with god before i had christ and after I deconverted (NT) -- DJ, 20:20:03 02/01/02 Fri
  - Hmmm well I don't know about anyone else -- WOG, 21:04:19 02/01/02 Fri
    - And I'm suppose to care what you think? (NT) -- DJ, 00:11:16 02/02/02 Sat
    - No I suppose you wouldn't care what I think -- WOG, 07:17:15 02/02/02 Sat
      - WOG I don't have any problems at all. -- DJ, 10:00:32 02/02/02 Sat
        Tell me about ..... -- Manda, 11:41:18 02/02/02 Sat
        anger -- DJ, 13:18:58 02/02/02 Sat
        As a matter of fact -- squeak, 09:44:20 02/03/02 Sun
        all things in moderation. LOL (NT) -- DJ, 10:44:42 02/03/02 Sun
        Nobody said -- Manda, 10:48:51 02/03/02 Sun
        Good points squeak and Manda -- WOG, 11:02:06 02/03/02 Sun
        I don't have repressed anger -- DJ, 11:09:01 02/03/02 Sun
        Well ...... -- Manda, 11:17:46 02/03/02 Sun
        This can be the case -- DJ, 11:39:51 02/03/02 Sun
        You must be -- Manda, 12:00:09 02/03/02 Sun
        You went from one question to a FKN questionaire! (NT) -- DJ, 12:08:08 02/03/02 Sun
        So ... -- Manda, 12:11:58 02/03/02 Sun
        What the Hell? Manda, have you NO scruples? -- DJ, 12:20:45 02/03/02 Sun
        DJ as my son's coach would say -- squeak, 12:23:06 02/03/02 Sun
        huh? -- Manda, 12:26:45 02/03/02 Sun
        I misjudged you. -- DJ, 12:46:18 02/03/02 Sun
        Uh huh -- squeak, 11:30:41 02/03/02 Sun
        There -- Manda, 11:37:19 02/03/02 Sun
        What? -- squeak, 11:44:22 02/03/02 Sun
        Oh but you did -- Manda, 12:02:09 02/03/02 Sun
        Narrow definition -- squeak, 12:06:58 02/03/02 Sun
        More and -- Manda, 12:09:51 02/03/02 Sun
        LOL -- squeak, 12:21:39 02/03/02 Sun
        Have -- Manda, 12:28:49 02/03/02 Sun
        Have -- squeak, 12:32:18 02/03/02 Sun
        You're not a bad person. (NT) -- DJ, 12:05:34 02/03/02 Sun
        It -- Manda, 12:18:02 02/03/02 Sun
        Why do you concern yourself? -- DJ, 12:50:47 02/03/02 Sun
    - Hmmm well -- BJ, 22:12:08 02/02/02 Sat
      - The two views -- WOG, 23:40:19 02/02/02 Sat
        The two views -- BJ, 00:53:48 02/03/02 Sun
        I think I did BJ -- WOG, 08:28:45 02/03/02 Sun
        That is what thoughts will do for ya -- BJ, 13:19:15 02/03/02 Sun
        As I answered in another posting -- WOG, 13:40:46 02/03/02 Sun
        Re: As I answered in another posting -- BJ, 14:37:47 02/03/02 Sun
      - You can't lose what was never in fact. -- DJ, 10:49:43 02/03/02 Sun
  - Maybe what you were taught was not real Christianity? (NT) -- Tonjka, 11:23:43 04/14/02 Sun
Re: hi DJ (bringing it up here!) -- DJ, 20:15:48 02/01/02 Fri
- An interesting story unfolding DJ -- Manda, 22:10:56 02/01/02 Fri
  - Re: An interesting story unfolding DJ -- DJ, 00:08:26 02/02/02 Sat
    - Just one small comment DJ -- WOG, 07:24:05 02/02/02 Sat
      - "Prior to age nine, I don't know if I was a christian. -- DJ, 09:22:09 02/02/02 Sat
    - Thanks for your openness DJ -- Manda, 07:54:43 02/02/02 Sat
      - Here are some personal feelings expressed. -- DJ, 09:27:40 02/02/02 Sat
        Re: Here are some personal feelings expressed. -- DJ, 09:38:57 02/02/02 Sat
        Re: Here are some personal feelings expressed. -- DJ, 10:18:51 02/02/02 Sat
        With respect ........ -- Manda, 09:48:05 02/02/02 Sat
        These are not theories, you open mouth and expose your ignorance to quick -- DJ, 09:54:07 02/02/02 Sat
        Well .......... -- Manda, 11:29:55 02/02/02 Sat
        Yes, you were being very nosey. -- DJ, 18:48:55 02/02/02 Sat
        You seemed open at the time (NT) -- Manda, 19:01:59 02/03/02 Sun
        Trust me -- squeak, 10:15:21 02/02/02 Sat
        Pain? regarding Manda's comment... -- DJ ;^), 10:30:13 02/02/02 Sat
        You know I didn't -- squeak, 11:09:48 02/02/02 Sat
        I feel like the fish in a school of pirana. (NT) -- DJ ;^), 11:24:18 02/02/02 Sat
        Instead of trying to find out ........ -- Manda, 11:36:57 02/02/02 Sat
        You just gum us to death (NT) -- DJ, 13:17:36 02/02/02 Sat
        If I may say ...... -- Manda, 11:31:45 02/02/02 Sat
        You may well, we can't stop you. -- DJ, 13:21:26 02/02/02 Sat
        So what? -- WOG, 21:40:23 02/02/02 Sat
        If a friend, then who needs the FBI? (NT) -- DJ, 10:51:37 02/03/02 Sun
        You don't have to answer DJ -- WOG, 11:08:07 02/03/02 Sun
        Nothing has changed, so long as we stick to the subject for why I'm here -- DJ, 11:12:31 02/03/02 Sun
        If I remember correctly -- WOG, 11:19:32 02/03/02 Sun
        I did that. If you will recall, we are to discuss the bible now -- DJ, 11:25:34 02/03/02 Sun
        Please do -- squeak, 09:04:07 02/03/02 Sun
        Not at all squeak -- Manda, 10:53:16 02/03/02 Sun
        Re: Not at all squeak -- DJ, 10:57:56 02/03/02 Sun
        Give ... -- Manda, 11:11:11 02/03/02 Sun
        Lady, you read like a gossip column. -- DJ, 11:17:13 02/03/02 Sun
        That is -- Manda, 11:19:58 02/03/02 Sun
        No mam, you were taking chances -- DJ, 12:10:16 02/03/02 Sun
        Again -- Manda, 12:14:47 02/03/02 Sun
        OMG -- squeak, 12:41:24 02/03/02 Sun
        repressed shame? -- DJ, 12:54:24 02/03/02 Sun
        You are -- Manda, 13:53:55 02/03/02 Sun
        The truth is self-evident -- squeak, 11:20:18 02/03/02 Sun
        A cop out -- Manda, 11:21:43 02/03/02 Sun
        LOL....Then why did -- squeak, 11:47:28 02/03/02 Sun
        I was -- Manda, 12:03:47 02/03/02 Sun
        Ma'am You're an open Book! There's No need to judge the obvious. (NT) -- DJ, 12:14:47 02/03/02 Sun
        That's -- Manda, 12:16:35 02/03/02 Sun
        no prejudice, just observing the obvious (NT) -- DJ, 12:57:02 02/03/02 Sun
        Yep it's amazing -- Manda, 21:36:27 02/03/02 Sun
        Now you're quibbling with me. This is so immature. -- DJ, 01:01:54 02/04/02 Mon
        And -- Manda, 06:49:27 02/04/02 Mon
        You don't have to tell me that -- squeak, 12:17:19 02/03/02 Sun
        Where -- Manda, 12:20:14 02/03/02 Sun
        This Manda person is causing me suspicions -- DJ, 12:59:57 02/03/02 Sun
        LOL, -- squeak, 13:05:43 02/03/02 Sun
        Speaking of Sunday -- DJ, 13:13:36 02/03/02 Sun
        You too Deej -- squeak, 13:18:43 02/03/02 Sun
        Funny -- Manda, 15:06:19 02/03/02 Sun
        Oh stop it, Manda. This is getting pitiful (NT) -- DJ, 16:43:02 02/03/02 Sun
        Well! -- Manda, 19:00:16 02/03/02 Sun
        hi squeak -- Manda, 11:25:58 02/02/02 Sat
        I never said I didn't want to answer you. -- DJ, 13:23:19 02/02/02 Sat
        Right off the back -- squeak, 09:11:24 02/03/02 Sun
        It seems to me that.... -- Manda, 11:07:18 02/03/02 Sun
        Lady, you would like NOTHING better then to stick your nose in my dirt! -- DJ, 11:20:25 02/03/02 Sun
        I don't -- Manda, 11:26:31 02/03/02 Sun
        Do you know anyone without dirty laundry? -- DJ, 12:17:57 02/03/02 Sun
        Huh? -- Manda, 12:22:04 02/03/02 Sun
        Re: Huh?/ Stuff? -- DJ, 12:39:51 02/03/02 Sun
        Don't -- Manda, 19:13:56 02/03/02 Sun
        I don't have tactics -- DJ, 00:59:47 02/04/02 Mon
        Sure you do -- Manda, 06:51:37 02/04/02 Mon
        Semantics -- squeak, 10:00:49 02/03/02 Sun
        That's two of us Manda -- WOG, 14:52:40 02/02/02 Sat
        I had no idea -- Manda, 15:48:51 02/02/02 Sat
        I'll talk to you about the bible if you'd like -- DJ, 16:19:57 02/02/02 Sat
        Manda -- BL, 23:37:52 02/02/02 Sat
        Re: Manda -- DJ, 11:03:35 02/03/02 Sun
        Hah! -- Manda, 11:13:47 02/03/02 Sun
        You're not a bad person, you just don't know the limits. (NT) -- DJ, 11:24:05 02/03/02 Sun
        Too late DJ -- Manda, 11:34:29 02/03/02 Sun
        Wait a minute -- squeak, 11:59:32 02/03/02 Sun
        If you think -- Manda, 12:08:17 02/03/02 Sun
        Now see? -- squeak, 13:16:16 02/03/02 Sun
        No need -- Manda, 19:18:40 02/03/02 Sun
        Re: Too late DJ/ No you're nosey with ulterior motives -- DJ, 12:32:07 02/03/02 Sun
        No DJ -- squeak, 13:21:59 02/03/02 Sun
        Grows up? -- Manda, 21:33:52 02/03/02 Sun
        You what? -- Manda, 21:29:23 02/03/02 Sun
        you're very juvenile (NT) -- DJ, 01:06:10 02/04/02 Mon
        Sure -- Manda, 10:06:32 02/04/02 Mon
        Tell Charley and Rob -- WOG, 14:44:36 02/02/02 Sat
If DJ answers, what solution can you give? -- Tonjka, 02:38:20 04/14/02 Sun
Re: hi DJ (bringing it up here!) -- ;-(, 12:16:09 06/22/02 Sat
- Re: hi DJ (bringing it up here!) -- ............., 22:14:22 06/29/02 Sat
Re: hi DJ (bringing it up here!) -- ;-), 17:33:30 06/30/02 Sun
Re: hi DJ (bringing it up here!) -- ;-), 23:03:21 07/01/02 Mon
Re: hi DJ (bringing it up here!) -- ;-), 00:27:51 07/09/02 Tue