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Subject: Re: ucfm and ulc

Author:
Fred

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Date Posted: 03:47:38 02/28/06 Tue
In reply to: Joan 's message, "ucfm and ulc" on 05:46:41 01/09/06 Mon

Joan thank you for calling names this shows YOUR spirit. There is no lie here other than the one YOU try to carry on. Many of us have long since renounce ULC membership and have nothing to do with them. If they (ULC) refuses to clean theor member roster that is not our concern.

I sense a lot of bitternes over here and shall take my leave now.

Thank you all though

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Author: Joan [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 13:38:34 04/29/06 Sat Okay Fred, you have renounced ULC, good for you! But you should not pretend you were never a member. That was my point. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

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Author: . [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 11:55:41 05/01/06 Mon WhatEver [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

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Author: joan [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 08:40:03 05/07/06 Sun Whatever??? Shows the indifference you have and lack of care for the "ordained" by fred. Whatever??? It shows the complete lack of love, care and commitment. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

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Peter
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Date Posted: 03:18:06 05/08/06 Mon

Assistant Senior Pastor Fred, please be aware that the Senior Pastor allows these messages....this may be a token of your approaching downfall. Please be aware of this and do not think you are to be treated differently as all others before you.
When this happens do not take this as a personal failure and remain proud of all you have intended to do and all good you have done in the Name of Jesus. Never be crushed and keep your eyes focussed on Jesus. Lean only on Him and not on UCFM as your reign will be over soon.

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Fred
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Date Posted: 08:39:07 05/08/06 Mon

Too late with your message as I have stepped away from leadership in UCFM.

You here are unable to read the Tearms and Conditions of Ordination and what those organizations are that Sr Fred Nech has list that should be renounced.

This has nothing to do with me and if you all wish to be ordained in ULC thats fine with me as I am no longer part of the leadership in UCFM..

This is not a downfall as you seem to think it is but rather a calling in a different direction by My Father whi is in Heaven!(actually the same as before all this leadership stuff)

Also there was no personal reign in UCFM as you seem to think but you may think as you please it is not MY job to force any belief on you or anyone else!

Thank you for the love and caring shown here! Really!

also I am just Pastor Fred----no other title needed please

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In the name of all others who had the same experience
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Date Posted: 15:39:29 05/08/06 Mon

Dear Pastor Fred,

We (the many before you) recognise the situation.
We have been in the same situation you are in.
Some of us were couragious enough to be explicit about the how and why, and some did not.
Please understand what was done to you and all others is a sin (if you were forced to lay down leadership).

May the Lord bless you and keep you.
Now and always,

This

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Joan
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Date Posted: 16:03:33 05/08/06 Mon

I agree with Peter.
The lack of love and care and the threads to take away even your ordination is not uncommon for UCFM.
It happened to many of us.
Fred Nero, just remember we have experienced the same.
You may be a pastor at this moment, but as soon as the senior pastor Fred will notice that you are hurt, he will take this away as well.
Please remember that this is not something that can be taken away by a human being. Nor can it be given by a human being. So be not afraid of what can happen.
Be not intimidated.

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Fred
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Date Posted: 19:30:05 05/08/06 Mon

Thank You Both Just for the record, There is ONE thing I am definately NOT and that is INTIMIDATED by a mere mortal(s).

Never have been and dont plan to start now. For those that know me, you know at times I shoot from the hip and can be pretty edgy at times, thats How Poppa made me.

You all be Blessed as well for as we can come into agreement on some things and disagree on others we can always agree that WE are the CHURCH, not my ministry, your ministry or UCFM ministry, so we CAN agree to disagree and still walk together!!! Many have not figured that out yet---Too Bad.!

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Author:
desiree
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Date Posted: 12:05:24 05/09/06 Tue

I am glad you are not hurt or intimidated. I know I was very hurt, crushed as spreading the gospel became very difficult without ordination.
I forgive you, even though you did not ask for it.
Hope you are at complete health soon and give my love to Shirl who is experiencing the same as I was then.
God bless you!
We will meet again in heaven, we are the church.
Desiree

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Author:
Fred
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Date Posted: 16:04:06 07/02/06 Sun

Seems I was wrong on my stance on this thread for after investigating this much much further it appears I was in error and beg forgiveness for being part of the "stiffnecked" group and blindly defending ucfm. I have found MORE on ulc's sites than anythiong ucfm has to offer or is planning to offer and seems ucfm wants to offer what ulc already has but for "christians" only. (whoever gets to deceide that).

in anycase as an fyi i have gone back to ulc and ficotw as the seem to be more "real"

Thank you and good night and goodbye!

http://www.myspace.com/pastorfred
http://wingsofaith.net

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Author: C-A-Radio (mmm) [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 00:00:40 05/20/07 Sun Some of us remember you Fred Nero also remember you for hacking my website when you had me thrown out of UCFM you are as guilty as they are now that you are thrown out for your bad managment of UCFM your the first screaming unfair play typical. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

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Author: fred [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 04:30:08 05/22/07 Tue I would tread lightly on such accusations my friend. I had nor have any interest in hacking anything. Actually dont even know how to do that. Its folks like YOU that give christians a bad name. Be blessed [ Post a Reply to This Message ]