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Subject: since you brought it up


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upstate
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Date Posted: 23:10:40 03/28/09 Sat
In reply to: upstate 's message, "enjoy" on 20:51:52 03/27/09 Fri

i remember the tourney in bridgeport and marist fans were well represented. a case could be made that was because marist was the #1 seed. i say this because i have been to a lot of maac tourneys and i can't say that i have ever anything near the amount of marist fans as were at that tourney. there were a ton of siena fans at the siena/marist game that year and the students came on monday as they were on spring break the week before (no on-campus housing). so when you say siena fans are frontrunners, etc, you are not telling the truth. in 1997, the tourney was in buffalo and siena was the 7th or 8th seed (out of 8) with an overall record of like 8-25 and there was at least 300 fans from the school there. i can't remember a game where there hasn't been a strong contingent of siena fans at a game within driving distance regardless of the team being dominant or terrible. during laniers years, the attendance was at its all time highs. so your argument that siena fans are bandwagon jumpers is a little off base.

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GGaff
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Date Posted: 13:57:13 03/29/09 Sun

I'm just saying that they don't travel that much better than anybody else. Their fan base is much bigger so it's relative.

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[> [> [> Subject: Re: since you brought it up


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Maristgrad
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Date Posted: 06:46:16 03/30/09 Mon

Based on the letter to the editor in Sunday's Times Union, it seems fans in Dayton wished Siena fans didn't travel at all! Seems I remember quite a few Siena fans who accused Marist fans of being obnoxiouis and "Oh how horrible we had to put up with that type of behavior." Well, based on people in Ohio, they're grateful Siena lost the second game so fans in Indy weren't subjected to the same "drunk, rude, and P{rofane" students that fans in Dayton were subjected to. But of course, I'm sure Siena fans will have plenty of ways to spin this one as well.

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[> [> Subject: Re: since you brought it up


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upstate
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Date Posted: 13:28:19 03/31/09 Tue

it is up to the arena staff to remove people if they are indeed doing what is being accused.

it obviously in no way could be an ohio state fan's sour grapes, so i am sure siena fans were acting way out of line. the .5% of fans in the building were surely having the swat team en route. the difference between this incident and the marist incident two years ago at mccann is that the one at mccann was a home game with the athletic director sitting courtside and making no effort to stop it. kids will be kids, and drunk kids will be even worse, but for the administration to enable the behavior to happen is another story. i personally watched murray the entire game when the chants took place and he did nothing. actually looked like he was trying to ignore it. if it was one chant, ok, not a big deal, but when the "F*CK SIENA" chant was going around the arena for the 2nd to 10th time, I would expect someone to do something.

if siena fans were doing what is being reported (which must be true, because there is no way this guy could just be pissed that his team lost to the smallest school in the tournament) I hope they were thrown out of the game. If they did that at the TUC, they would have. Many Siena students were removed from games this year at the TUC. I don't think Siena kids are any better than Marist's kids, or vice versa. I think they are mostly very similar. What I think the problem was at the game two years ago was the mccann staff/athletic dept staff's unwillingness to do anything about it.

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[> [> [> Subject: Its a shame you are so intelligent but obviously bitter upstate


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Yankee
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Date Posted: 15:39:13 03/31/09 Tue

If you are gonna say Marist students did something wrong, say Siena students did so as well and move on. Don't try to make it about the athletic directors or college communities.

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[> [> [> [> Subject: Re: Its a shame you are so intelligent but obviously bitter upstate


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upstate
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Date Posted: 17:58:55 03/31/09 Tue

not bitter at all. i just post facts and what i see. if someone disagrees with that, then that is ok. i was at the game at mccann when the f siena chants took place over and over again and i saw no effort from anyone working security or from the athletic department to stop it (murray was standing in corner by entrance. that is a fact, i saw it with my own eyes. i am not a siena homer where i have skewed glasses. if it happened at siena and d'argenio sat there at watched it, i would say the same thing about siena and him. i was extremely proud of the way the siena students handled themselves that night. they did not retaliate in any way and worried more about cheering their team to a very hardfought victory. if siena kids were there chanting f marist and marist fans were cheering on their team and not retaliating, i would give credit to marist and their students and probably apologized for the behavior of our students. i am not naive enough to think that in other situations, students from siena were the ones instigating problems, but all I can say is when it happens at the TUC, it is dealt with quickly, almost too quickly if you ask me. i've seen at least a dozen times this past year an isolated student get removed from the arena.

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[> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: Its a shame you are so intelligent but obviously bitter upstate


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GGaff
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Date Posted: 21:11:22 03/31/09 Tue

I remember that game Upstate. I agree with you on that one.
No reason for those chants. I was pissed when it happened.
The school should stop that shit..

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[> [> [> [> Subject: Re: Its a shame you are so intelligent but obviously bitter upstate


Author:
burlington
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Date Posted: 08:36:01 04/01/09 Wed

and i've seen a number of students escorted out of mccann when they start fuck siena chants. in big games with siena, when mccann is packed (even though it's not a rivalry, as you've claimed), security will give verbal warnings, but they know that they can't escort all the students out.

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