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Date Posted: 09:17:21 04/22/19 Mon
Author: David S.
Author Host/IP: 173.218.175.141
Subject: Re: College Football Data warehouse With Schools Playing Or Stopped Playing Football
In reply to: charles arey 's message, "Re: College Football Data warehouse With Schools Playing Or Stopped Playing Football" on 14:21:03 04/21/19 Sun

>>There are lots of Discontinue teams from the 1800s up
>>to 2014.
>
>Thanks, I'll look through the list and see if there
>are others I should mention at the website. Basically
>I'm not worried about teams that existed only before
>1960 since they would not be covered at the website
>anyway, but I see some names there that I have not
>seen before. Many of the teams listed appear to be
>club-level teams (e.g., Atlantic Christian 2005,
>Chattahoochee Technical College 2012, Clarkson 2014,
>Columbus State 2014, DePaul 2014, Eastern Connecticut
>State 2014, George Mason 2014, Greenville Tech 2012,
>etc). Some others such as Albert Lea may be
>legitimate post-1959 varsity teams that merit
>inclusion at the website, so additional research will
>be necessary (not that there's much hope of finding
>any information about helmet designs).
>
>Saint Leo was, to the best of my knowledge, always a
>club team. The school's yearbooks have been digitized
>and placed on the internet; the 1973 and 1976
>yearbooks specifically say "club football".
>
> This article:
>https://web.archive.org/web/20130106232301/http://www.t
>ampabayfootball.net/news/news200.htm
>
>states:
>
>"Saint Leo had been talking about club level football
>for several years and in 1972 decided to take the
>plunge with a $15,000.00 investment. Club level
>football did not require NCAA accreditation and it was
>definitely football on the cheap. There were no
>scholarships, the players had to sign waivers, provide
>their own insurance and buy their own shoes.
>
>Joe Sico was the first head coach, as he had coached a
>freshman high school team in Fitchburg, Massachusetts.
>The Monarchs, the school would change its nickname to
>the Lions in the late 1980s, played their first game
>on September 23, 1972 at the Pasco High School
>stadium. The University of Tampa freshman team won the
>game 40-0 and Saint Leo was slaughtered in all four
>games that season.
>
>Tilrow Morrison, the former athletic director at Polk
>High School, took over the head coaching duties in
>1973 and would lead the team for the next eight
>seasons. Things did improve and the Monarchs won two
>games that season and in 1978 posted a school best 5-3
>record.
>
>Saint Leo was a bit of a pioneer, as there were no
>colleges with club level programs in the deep south.
>It was hoped other Florida schools would start club
>football. Some other school’s club teams were
>played, such as Duke, North Carolina and Rutgers, but
>scheduling was a problem. Semi-pro teams were played,
>the Tampa Rangers, Miami Barracudas and Haines City
>Warriors. Scholarship programs, such as Newberry,
>NC-Wilmington and Millsap, were on the schedule. Saint
>Leo’s team did not travel that much, but there were
>trips to Alabama, Georgia, Tennessee and even one game
>in Washington, D.C. The very first game played by the
>University of Central Florida was played at Saint Leo
>in the 1979. UCF won that game 21-0 and won 53-0 when
>the two teams met in the Tangerine Bowl the following
>year.
>
>Saint Leo built an on campus field, called College
>Field, in 1974 and there were plans to move up to the
>NCAA Division III level. By 1980, it was costing about
>$35,000.00 to run the program and the school decided
>to drop football."
>
> - so I don't see any mention of them ever actually
>achieving NCAA Division III status.
>
>The only references I've found to Saint Leo ever being
>a non-club team are as follows:
>
>http://alumni.worcester.edu/s/140/social.aspx?sid=140&g
>id=1&pgid=3356&cid=5511&ecid=5511&crid=0&calpgid=15&cal
>cid=848
>
>...where it is stated "The 1980 Club Football Team won
>the National Collegiate Football Association
>championship, which was Worcester State’s second
>national championship in eight months (women’s
>basketball was the other.) Under the direction of
>12-year head coach Jim Girouard, the team finished 9-1
>in 1980 losing only to Stonehill and beating a
>Division III team, St. Leo of Florida. "
>
>And:
>
>https://www.facebook.com/saintleofootball/photos/a.7206
>78354638716/720680804638471/?type=3&theater
>
>- this links to a scan of an old newspaper article
>entitled 'Monarchs End First Season With a Loss'
>('Monarchs' was the name of Saint Leo's athletic teams
>at that time). Perhaps 'first season' is a reference
>to 'first season as a varsity team'?
>
>So maybe Saint Leo achieved NCAA Division III football
>status for one season only (1980), before dropping the
>sport because it did not wish to construct a stadium
>adequate to meet NCAA guidelines.


I do wonder if the wording in footballscoops from another news article talking about bringing football back at Saint Leo meant that they had varsity football back in the 1920s and 30s before dropping the sport and then the club team came about in the 1970s? That is why it is in the incomplete data list.

Got word that Florida State College dropped all men's sports when it became an all female college until it became a coed again which is now known today as Florida State University.

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