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Date Posted: 21:14:35 12/02/21 Thu
Author: charles arey
Author Host/IP: 173.187.51.210
Subject: #23
In reply to: Bud 's message, "Re: 49 unidentified historical helmet designs" on 00:21:38 12/02/21 Thu

>#23: Colgate did not play any teams that had any kind of M in their name or nickname in 1966 (Brown, Columbia, Cornell, Holy Cross, BU, Princeton, Lehigh, Lafayette, Rutgers, Bucknell), and that was true for a number of years in either direction. Charles, are you sure that was from a Colgate game?

Sorry, it's entirely possible that I botched the documentation somewhere along the way (I've been accumulating these for several years). I might have written "Colgate" when I meant to say "Clarion" or "Cortland" or something. I vaguely remember suspecting that this might be one of the "M" Pennsylvania teams (Millersville, Mansfield, Moravian, etc).

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[> [> [> [> Re: #23 -- No name, 00:40:58 12/03/21 Fri (75.166.159.103)

Charles,I was able to check out Clarion's and Cortland's 1966 schedules. Unfortunately,no "M" teams on the schedule. Also, that photo does not belong to either 1966 Millersville or 1966 Mansfield,. Not sure about Moravian. Still searching...


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[> [> [> [> [> Re: #23 -- charles arey, 02:49:01 12/03/21 Fri (173.187.51.210)

>Charles,I was able to check out Clarion's and
>Cortland's 1966 schedules. Unfortunately,no "M" teams
>on the schedule. Also, that photo does not belong to
>either 1966 Millersville or 1966 Mansfield,. Not sure
>about Moravian. Still searching...

Fortunately i didn’t screw up the information - the photograph appears on page 155 of Colgate’s 1967 yearbook:


https://digitalcollections.colgate.edu/object/studentyearbooks9987#page/1/mode/2up

Maybe that’s not actually an “M” on the side? Or maybe one player wore an “M” for some unknown reason?

I rarely pay any attention to football uniforms, but do sometimes to try to identify an opposing team. There are some stripes on the sleeve of the player in question which could prove diagnostic.


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[> [> [> [> [> [> Re: #23 -- Bud, 13:16:03 12/03/21 Fri (104.3.112.146)

>>Charles,I was able to check out Clarion's and
>>Cortland's 1966 schedules. Unfortunately,no "M" teams
>>on the schedule. Also, that photo does not belong to
>>either 1966 Millersville or 1966 Mansfield,. Not sure
>>about Moravian. Still searching...
>
>Fortunately i didn’t screw up the information - the
>photograph appears on page 155 of Colgate’s 1967
>yearbook:
>
>
>https://digitalcollections.colgate.edu/object/studentye
>arbooks9987#page/1/mode/2up
>
>Maybe that’s not actually an “M” on the side? Or
>maybe one player wore an “M” for some unknown
>reason?
>
>I rarely pay any attention to football uniforms, but
>do sometimes to try to identify an opposing team.
>There are some stripes on the sleeve of the player in
>question which could prove diagnostic.

My guess is that it was a preseason scrimmage game. The white jersey has no stripes, which we assume the road jersey would have been the same design as the home (dark) jersey (back in those days), and there are no fans in the stands. And in preseason scrimmages, the teams don't necessarily wear their regular-season jerseys, anyway.


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