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Date Posted: 13:21:01 10/15/13 Tue
Author: Old Ceeb�
Author Host/IP: 64.132.210.51
Subject: Re: OK, Ceeb, I watched the whole (painful) 16 minutes
In reply to: 5280 's message, "OK, Ceeb, I watched the whole (painful) 16 minutes" on 12:46:57 10/15/13 Tue

>Call me a brainwashed member of the male proletariat,
>but the entire piece had the same depth of thought as
>a late night "rap session" in the dorm by a stoned
>sophomore socialist wannabe who has had one economics
>seminar taught by a burnout grad student.

Is that really even fair to say? Would you want your views, as a middle-aged man with grown children and career/life experiences, to be equated to a nineteen-year-old who's waxing philosophical on some sweet bud?

>
>What is the alternative to "women and children first"?
>Every person for himself/herself? After all, why
>should children even get preferential treatment?
>Society has invested a lot in me in terms of education
>and experience. The child may not even make it to
>adulthood, and if they do, we'll need to invest a lot
>more in them along the way. Screw them.

Apples and oranges yet again. A grown-ass woman is NOT the same thing as a child. But sadly, the infantilization of women continues unabated.... Princesses one and all, by mere virtue of possessing a uterus.

>I offer to give up my seat on a bus to a woman for the
>same reason I do so for an older man, or a man OR
>woman with kids. Because it's the nice thing to do.
>I can't say what I would do in a limited
>life-boat-space situation, but I like to think that I
>would not bite and scratch my way into that last spot.
> Wouldn't it be better to die so that someone else can
>live, rather than go through the rest of your life
>haunted by those whose seat you took?

But a woman is free NOT to be haunted for expecting someone to sacrifice his life for her? That's my point: must be nice! Where did this idea come from? And how have men's sacrifices come to be regarded as oppressions? Why shouldn't a woman take a man out---spend her hard-earned dollars from a chiseled-down paycheck on him? She sure as fuck ain't paying alimony and child support! Why should she not buy him things to garner his affection?

>If you don't want to be a doormat, don't be a doormat.
> But, do it because you're sick of life shitting on
>you for being you, not because you're sick of life
>shitting on you for being a man.

It's not life that's shitting on me. It's culture and society. It's my own upbringing. It's my own failure to recognize pitfalls, and my buy-in to a system that devalues me. I accept responsibility, and that's why I invest time in autopsying it. I DON'T sit here and say "fuck them fucken bitches." I say, "Do they even know what's gone on, and what's happening? Do they understand why they initiate divorce 70% of the time? Are they really happier to be stretched so thin by the presumption that career comes first? Do they really want what men have, which has actually always been a shit deal?"

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I didn't wanna do this. I swear I didn't... -- Old Ceeb�, 13:41:55 10/15/13 Tue
- Re: I didn't wanna do this. I swear I didn't... -- Stiller, 13:44:54 10/15/13 Tue
- Search "Operation Mockingbird" and see what you find. -- Old Ceeb�, 13:55:15 10/15/13 Tue
  - Bwaahahahahahahaha! n/t -- Stacey, FFF, 13:56:24 10/15/13 Tue
    - BEARMAN! -- Old Ceeb�, 13:59:29 10/15/13 Tue
      - Re: BEARMAN! -- Stacey, FFF, 14:01:52 10/15/13 Tue
        A "smooch"? Subversive! Misandric! Manipulative! -- Old Ceeb�, 14:13:48 10/15/13 Tue
        Re: A "smooch"? Subversive! Misandric! Manipulative! -- Stacey, FFF, 14:20:44 10/15/13 Tue
        Fuck YES! In your damn face, phan! -- Old Ceeb�, 14:25:26 10/15/13 Tue
        You don't see it? -- PingonE, 14:30:01 10/15/13 Tue
        Skinny! You dropped a c-bomb! I'm so proud of you! -- Old Ceeb�, 14:31:46 10/15/13 Tue
        LOL! ... n/t -- PingonE, 14:48:55 10/15/13 Tue
        And you wonder why our hearts clog-up years before theirs? (NT) -- 5280, 14:51:44 10/15/13 Tue
        The faster ta git yer money! n/t (NT) -- Stacey, FFF, 15:41:06 10/15/13 Tue
        OMG. It's true, then. -- Old Ceeb�, 15:50:06 10/15/13 Tue
        Because we WANT them to. (NT) -- phan, 15:51:20 10/15/13 Tue
        Wait just a minute........ -- Stiller, 15:03:24 10/15/13 Tue
        It's a SAMMICH, Stiller! That shit's metaphorical. -- Old Ceeb�, 15:11:07 10/15/13 Tue
        Re: It's a SAMMICH, Stiller! That shit's metaphorical. -- Stiller, 15:46:57 10/15/13 Tue
        I got a real sammich. Not some faux thing. (Don't read past this, Stacey.) -- phan, 15:04:06 10/15/13 Tue
        You monster. You unconscionable bastard. -- Old Ceeb�, 15:09:08 10/15/13 Tue
        I'm such a gentleman, aren't i? -- phan, 15:48:30 10/15/13 Tue
        Gentlemen should only exist... -- Old Ceeb�, 16:10:50 10/15/13 Tue
      - Re: BEARMAN! -- Bearman, 15:16:48 10/15/13 Tue
        I think it worked! -- Old Ceeb�, 15:26:55 10/15/13 Tue
        Re: I think it worked! -- Bearman, 15:29:39 10/15/13 Tue
        Malum Prohibitum or Malum In Se! (NT) -- 5280, 15:48:15 10/15/13 Tue
        Ollie Ollie Oxen Free or Doritos Locos Tacos! n/t -- Old Ceeb�, 15:51:32 10/15/13 Tue
        Mallum Per Se !! -- gg, 16:01:51 10/15/13 Tue
        You're so violent. -- Buc2, 16:10:49 10/15/13 Tue
        Ceeb...you've got your Bear call, I've got my Geeg call. (NT) -- 5280, 17:17:32 10/15/13 Tue
        You don't even realize how wrong you are, or why. -- Old Ceeb�, 18:12:39 10/15/13 Tue
        Get started !!!! What do you think of prostitution law? -- Concerned Citizen, 15:57:09 10/15/13 Tue
        Did you hear? -- GO BOLTZ, 18:02:40 05/22/15 Fri
        Re: Did you hear? -- Niner, 02:34:44 05/25/15 Mon
Re: OK, Ceeb, I watched the whole (painful) 16 minutes -- 5280, 13:46:42 10/15/13 Tue
- Re: OK, Ceeb, I watched the whole (painful) 16 minutes -- Buc2, 15:57:00 10/15/13 Tue