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Date Posted: 14:01:43 10/14/02 Mon
Author: Anonymous
Subject: Here is what the gurus were trying to hide with their CNN crap.

Read this is you are even THINKING about going to any FF pageant. -- Anonymous, 09:35:12 09/07/02 Sat

Subject: LETS MAKE A LIST OF THE BUSINESSES THAT T/M "RUN"


Author:
Anonymous

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Date Posted: 06:49:14 09/07/02 Sat

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TROY AND MICHAEL RUN ALL OF THESE BUSINESSES EITHER HANDS ON OR THROUGH A 2ND PARTY.

2 PAGEANTS
GLAMOUR DOLLS
FABULOUS FACES

HAIR AND MAKEUP

PHOTOGRAPHY

CLOTHING THROUGH
CHRISTINA'S (TINA MARSHALL)

SWIMSUITS THROUGH
SANDI HENRY

FALLS AND HAIRPIECES

TANNING THROUGH
LORI FRANKLIN

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ho ho ho he he he - NOW WE KNOW WHY THOSE MOM'S HAVE LESS THAN PRETTY KIDS WHO WIN PAGEANTS. THAT EXPLAINS HOW SOME OF THEM WON FF AND GD.....NOW I SEE, HA HA HA HA HA (NT) -- Anonymous, 07:16:03 09/07/02 Sat
Let's list all Michael Butlers businesses: Hair and makeup, photography, don't forget coaching with or without Shane, also designed clothes, not to mention "running or should I say owning" pageants from behind the scene! This came from S & M OWN mouth. I am a former client they assured me my kid would win if I went because someone was having the pageant for them. YOu know it doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out besides Butler who is always on here bashing..let's see, have daughters always beat by Hannah.... (NT) -- Anonymous, 07:53:21 09/07/02 Sat
MOST ALL THE PROBLEMS IN PAGEANTS HAVE BEEN CREATED BY THESE FOUR 'GUYS'. Now what we have here are 4 men who have egos bigger than well......anyway, lol, they think they are something. They are haughty and arrogrant if anyone dares to try to make waves in their all consuming businesses. If these guys are all tied up with the FF and MDD pageant systems, THE BEST THING TO DO IS NOT SUPPORT EITHER ONE OF THEM. We all know that t/m's suck ups will be at theirs and those that Butler control will be at MDD, now why would any other dumb smuck want to go and pay for their kids and clients to win. (NT) -- Anonymous, 08:08:31 09/07/02 Sat
EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THE KIDS OWNED BY THESE ABOVE LISTED BUSINESS PARTNERS HAVE WON BIG TITLES AND BOTH FF AND GD. NOW IF THAT ISN'T CLEAR TO YOU DUMMIES, NOTHING ELSE IS. THAT IS THE BIGGEST COI IN PAGEANTS. WHAT MORE DO YOU NEED TO KNOW WHAT KIND OF SYSTEM FF AND GD ARE. NOTHING IF YOU GOT A BRAIN. (NT) -- Anonymous, 08:12:44 09/07/02 Sat
Re: I HAVE TO AGREE ON ALOT OF THAT. DH AND JM ARE NOT AT ALL PRETTY AND YET THEY HAVE MANAGED TO WIN BIG GRANDS AT THE PAGEANTS T/M HAVE IN THEIR POCKETS. HANNA D LOOKS GOOD ON STAGE AFTER ALL THE THICK PANCAKE MAKEUP FAKE LASHES AND PAINTES ON FEATURES BUT CLOSE UP WITHOUT ALL THE MAKEUP THE CHILD IS DOWNRIGHT HOMELY. I AM SORRY TO SAY THAT BUT ITS TRUE. (NT) -- Anonymous, 08:20:51 09/07/02 Sat
This is the way it is. These kids that are up the rears of T/M can't win any other way. Also, they ONLY win at pageants where the gurus control. They go back to the same ones every year and get their wins. NONE of their business partners clients can venture to any other pageant and do any good. Few of their clients can go elsewhere and win either. imho (NT) -- Anonymous, 08:29:29 09/07/02 Sat


Subject: ANY PREDICTIONS FOR NE FABULOUS FACES?


Author:
Anonymous

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Date Posted: 06:12:45 09/07/02 Sat

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ALOT OF KIDS MADE UP TO LOOK LIKE DRAG QUEENS WHO HAVE MAMAS WHO ARE WILLING TO SUCK GURU BUTT TO GET THEM SHABBY WINS THAT NOONE RESPECTS. LOL (NT) -- Anonymous, 06:16:51 09/07/02 Sat
Re: I thought they wanted more natural looks for this pageant? (NT) -- Anonymous, 06:43:10 09/07/02 Sat
They tell you that but it is BULLSHIT. All the winners are big pros faked up just like they are at GD. WHAT about the fact they judge their own pageant don't you understand? It is all about their clients and ALL their clients are made up heavy and have all the fake hair, etc. (NT) -- Anonymous, 08:14:54 09/07/02 Sat
Re: Can anyone please make real predictions on this pageant and not just vent against T/M! (NT) -- Anonymous, 08:24:10 09/07/02 Sat
IF THEY WERE NOT SUCH JERKS, IT WOULD NOT BE HAPPENING. HERE IS A PREDICTION FOR YOU....ALL THE WINNERS WILL BE THEIR BUSINESS PARTNERS KIDS, BEST FRIENDS KIDS, CLIENTS KIDS AND THE PEOPLE HAVE MONEY THAT THEY WANT TO BE THEIR CLIENTS WILL ALLLLLLL WIN. IT IS ALWAYS THAT WAY. THEY JUDGE THEIR OWN PAGEANT, THAT SAYS IT ALL. (NT) -- Anonymous, 08:25:40 09/07/02 Sat


Subject: Mystical Dreams vs. FF


Author:
Anonymous

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Date Posted: 07:30:05 09/07/02 Sat

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Has anybody bothered to call Toni O. yet and tell her what she's getting herself into with this MD director? The director got Toni hook, line&sinker by giving Toni's kid a grand supreme in one of her many photo contests to ensure that Toni would come...also gave grand supreme entries to some of Toni's other kids, including CF to make sure the kid didn't even go back and crown at FF and came to her pageant instead. The woman has a ran a heavy line of crock by Toni telling Toni she already has 30 paid entries in her hand and that is she is giving the money no matter what and Toni has fallen for it......has anybody bothered to tell Toni how involved Michael Butler is in this thing and that once Linda gets Toni and her kids there and she gets their money, they are ALL getting screwed???

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Well, people WARNED THO about getting involved with FF last year and their her kid and her favorties clients got screwed. She did not listen about T and M, even tho she KNEW what they were capable of. I doubt she will listen about this either. FF is far more political because t/m control more judges and people than BUTLER, imo. (NT) -- Anonymous, 08:10:46 09/07/02 Sat
At least the winners Toni did have at FF last year GOT their $. No way will this lady pay this $. Her entire pageant was planned with Michael Butler to hurt FF. She has given every single one of Toni's major clients a free entry to this pageant, and many more free entries as well, and claiming she has 30 paid entries in hand. I just hate to see all these kids get screwed. The woman will never be able to pay her money. Would love to see some initials of these supposed 30 "paid" entries she has! (NT) --
Subject: On a post below, a poster tells about the fall business that Lopez started.


Author:
Anonymous

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Date Posted: 06:20:16 09/07/02 Sat

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They posted that Troy and Michael put up a banner on the Bravo making fun of Farrah's Falls. I think that is the dirtiest thing I have ever heard of. They were big buddies and Farah's mom was SOOOOOOOO into them. The posts says that they were made because she started that business. The NOW have a fall business and the poster said they were so greedy they wanted that too, along with their other 6 or 7 spin off COI businesses. They have got to be the most selfish people I have heard of. They want it all. I wish I could have seen the banner they put up making fun of her fall business. But that is the way they are. They can't stand for anyone to have ANYTHING but them. What did the banner say? I would like to hear more about this, it is one of the tackier things they have done, besides bashing kids on the internet because they were mad at their parents.

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Re: It is not F. Lopez. (NT) -- Anonymous, 06:26:30 09/07/02 Sat
THEN WHO IS F'S MOM. THEY ALSO HAD A FALLING OUT WITH FL AND HER MOM OVER SOMETHING. (NT) -- Anonymous, 06:41:43 09/07/02 Sat
Re: Lopez switched to Toni O for h/m. that was what got them hating on her. (NT) -- Anonymous, 06:44:22 09/07/02 Sat
HERE IS THE POST BELOW>>>> T/M do not give a damn if she awards the money or not. What they do care about is loosing 50 or more contestants in their own pageants. Don't you get they do not care about YOU or your kid, all they care about is their wallet ! Remember when F's mom started selling falls and they had a banner made ridiculing her ? I was so shocked. With 2 pageants and a photography business, you'd think they could leave the hair fall business to someone else but noooooooo !! (NT) -- Anonymous, 06:26:34 09/07/02 Sat


Subject: MDD vs FF


Author:
Anonymous

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Date Posted: 06:55:05 09/06/02 Fri

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Well I intended to go to FF in the beginning but I've definitely changed my mind.
T&M have been bashing in every single possible way since MDD started - not only did they call the director and THREATENED her, but they bashed H/M coming, kids coming, gosh they even bashed the HOTEL price !!
How can adults go that low ? And the worse is they must think we are so damn stupid and no see through them.

So... we're headed to MDD instead. Butler is supposed to "run the show". He was supposed to run quite a number of pageants this year (including some he didnt even come to). He was supposed to run ED last year - but guess who won a Supreme and 8 door titles ? It wasn't LB ! LOL.

I just wish all of the directors would stop taking us for fools and let us make our own decisions. T/M sure showed their true faces these past few months and I for one am NOT liking them.

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T/M are egotistical, nasty, and twofaced creeps. They bash anyone and everyone that is not tied in with them and their systems. They have been into wars with every other big name h/m person and are in wars with parents that leave them for someone better. They showed their true colors years ago when the bashed kids all over the internet and spit in the face of the woman holding her child. The reason they spit on her was because she had the guts to call their pageant systems what they are which is hi-priced POLITICAL TRASH.. imho (NT) -- Anonymous, 07:15:31 09/06/02 Fri
Amen Sister !!! (NT) -- Anonymous, 08:49:30 09/06/02 Fri
Please go to MDD........I don't think I can be in the same room much less hotel with people who are sooooooo worried over a CHILDRENS beauty pageant!! Please go,go, go to MDD and shut the HELL up!!!!!!! I will got to faces and bring back hopefully one of those gorgeous crowns!!!! (NT) -- Anonymous, 08:55:09 09/06/02 Fri
Please go to MDD........I don't think I can be in the same room much less hotel with people who are sooooooo worried over a CHILDRENS beauty pageant!! Please go,go, go to MDD and shut the HELL up!!!!!!! I will got to faces and bring back hopefully one of those gorgeous crowns!!!! (NT) -- Anonymous, 08:55:10 09/06/02 Fri
LOL if you're not "worried" then what are you doing here ? Pot calling the kettle black much !! (NT) -- Anonymous, 09:04:07 09/06/02 Fri
THEN YOU BETTER HAVE A WHOLE BUNCH OF THAT STINKY GURU SH** ALL OVER YOUR NOSE AND FACE. BECAUSE THAT IS WHAT IT TAKES TO WIN FF AND NO CROWN IS WORTH THE KIND OF STINKY THINGS YOU HAVE TO DO TO WIN AN FF PAGEANT. PARTICULARLY WHEN THE DAMN DIRECTOR YOU SUCK BUTT WITH JUDGES THEIR OWN PAGEANT. ROTFLMAO (NT) -- Anonymous, 09:34:36 09/06/02 Fri
If you know all, please tell who is going to win in the 0-4 at faces. (NT) -- Anonymous, 11:12:21 09/06/02 Fri
Let me add that I know it is a 0-5 grand, but give me winners in each age group as well as the 0-5 grand. Convince me BABY! (NT) -- Anonymous, 11:20:00 09/06/02 Fri
You'll have to call TM they have the winners list at their house. If you BABY them enough maybe they'll share it with you BABY. (NT) -- Anonymous, 13:16:40 09/06/02 Fri
You have to promise to become a big client of their and let them rule you and your child, tell you where to go and tell you what to spend. THEN they will give you a crown in return. That is how you win FF or GD, SUCK BABY SUCK. (NT) -- Anonymous, 06:06:55 09/07/02 Sat


Subject: Here is some truthfulness about the guru directors who are so worried about their pageant. If they were not worried, they would not have called their soldiers out to post for them on any board where they are being exposed.


Author:
Anonymous

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Date Posted: 16:39:30 09/06/02 Fri

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They start out with all the sugarcoated lies then they move on to snare the big money from anyone who is willing to pay. After you pay in several thousand dollars, you begin to see that that money is going for their child and their wins. If you happen to compete in the same supreme group, you start noticing a tearing down of your child in suttle ways. This happens if they are scared your child might win out. They make fun of them in underhanded tacky ways and someone who has a brain begins to see the method they use. They try to brainwash you that THEIR child is better than everyone else and that you have to come in second place or suffer the consequences. I guess some people who don't have a child in their age group or supreme group might last longer than those who do. It also depends on how much money you got and how long they can suck you dry and you not figure it out. A year would be about right because that is about 4 or 5 pageants and that is where the true colors start showing after seeing their displays or arrogance and spitefulness.

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This post describes (NT) -- Anonymous, 05:59:22 09/07/02 Sat
Re: This post describes T AND M like it was written for them. rotflmao, cuz I am sure it was. LOL LOL LOL LOL (NT) -- Anonymous, 06:00:08 09/07/02 Sat

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[> Re: Here is what the gurus were trying to hide with their CNN crap. -- Anonymous, 23:02:26 11/24/04 Wed

>Read this is you are even THINKING about going to any
>FF pageant. -- Anonymous, 09:35:12 09/07/02 Sat
>
>Subject: LETS MAKE A LIST OF THE BUSINESSES THAT T/M
>"RUN"
>
>
>Author:
>Anonymous
>
>-------------------------------------------------------
>-------------------------
>Date Posted: 06:49:14 09/07/02 Sat
>
>-------------------------------------------------------
>-------------------------
>TROY AND MICHAEL RUN ALL OF THESE BUSINESSES EITHER
>HANDS ON OR THROUGH A 2ND PARTY.
>
>2 PAGEANTS
>GLAMOUR DOLLS
>FABULOUS FACES
>
>HAIR AND MAKEUP
>
>PHOTOGRAPHY
>
>CLOTHING THROUGH
>CHRISTINA'S (TINA MARSHALL)
>
>SWIMSUITS THROUGH
>SANDI HENRY
>
>FALLS AND HAIRPIECES
>
>TANNING THROUGH
>LORI FRANKLIN
>
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>
>Replies:
>ho ho ho he he he - NOW WE KNOW WHY THOSE MOM'S HAVE
>LESS THAN PRETTY KIDS WHO WIN PAGEANTS. THAT EXPLAINS
>HOW SOME OF THEM WON FF AND GD.....NOW I SEE, HA HA HA
>HA HA (NT) -- Anonymous, 07:16:03 09/07/02 Sat
>Let's list all Michael Butlers businesses: Hair and
>makeup, photography, don't forget coaching with or
>without Shane, also designed clothes, not to mention
>"running or should I say owning" pageants from behind
>the scene! This came from S & M OWN mouth. I am a
>former client they assured me my kid would win if I
>went because someone was having the pageant for them.
>YOu know it doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure
>out besides Butler who is always on here
>bashing..let's see, have daughters always beat by
>Hannah.... (NT) -- Anonymous, 07:53:21 09/07/02 Sat
>MOST ALL THE PROBLEMS IN PAGEANTS HAVE BEEN CREATED BY
>THESE FOUR 'GUYS'. Now what we have here are 4 men who
>have egos bigger than well......anyway, lol, they
>think they are something. They are haughty and
>arrogrant if anyone dares to try to make waves in
>their all consuming businesses. If these guys are all
>tied up with the FF and MDD pageant systems, THE BEST
>THING TO DO IS NOT SUPPORT EITHER ONE OF THEM. We all
>know that t/m's suck ups will be at theirs and those
>that Butler control will be at MDD, now why would any
>other dumb smuck want to go and pay for their kids and
>clients to win. (NT) -- Anonymous, 08:08:31 09/07/02
>Sat
>EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THE KIDS OWNED BY THESE ABOVE
>LISTED BUSINESS PARTNERS HAVE WON BIG TITLES AND BOTH
>FF AND GD. NOW IF THAT ISN'T CLEAR TO YOU DUMMIES,
>NOTHING ELSE IS. THAT IS THE BIGGEST COI IN PAGEANTS.
>WHAT MORE DO YOU NEED TO KNOW WHAT KIND OF SYSTEM FF
>AND GD ARE. NOTHING IF YOU GOT A BRAIN. (NT) --
>Anonymous, 08:12:44 09/07/02 Sat
>Re: I HAVE TO AGREE ON ALOT OF THAT. DH AND JM ARE NOT
>AT ALL PRETTY AND YET THEY HAVE MANAGED TO WIN BIG
>GRANDS AT THE PAGEANTS T/M HAVE IN THEIR POCKETS.
>HANNA D LOOKS GOOD ON STAGE AFTER ALL THE THICK
>PANCAKE MAKEUP FAKE LASHES AND PAINTES ON FEATURES BUT
>CLOSE UP WITHOUT ALL THE MAKEUP THE CHILD IS DOWNRIGHT
>HOMELY. I AM SORRY TO SAY THAT BUT ITS TRUE. (NT) --
>Anonymous, 08:20:51 09/07/02 Sat
>This is the way it is. These kids that are up the
>rears of T/M can't win any other way. Also, they ONLY
>win at pageants where the gurus control. They go back
>to the same ones every year and get their wins. NONE
>of their business partners clients can venture to any
>other pageant and do any good. Few of their clients
>can go elsewhere and win either. imho (NT) --
>Anonymous, 08:29:29 09/07/02 Sat
>
>
>Subject: ANY PREDICTIONS FOR NE FABULOUS FACES?
>
>
>Author:
>Anonymous
>
>-------------------------------------------------------
>-------------------------
>Date Posted: 06:12:45 09/07/02 Sat
>
>-------------------------------------------------------
>-------------------------
>
>[ Post a Reply to This Message ]
>
>Replies:
>ALOT OF KIDS MADE UP TO LOOK LIKE DRAG QUEENS WHO HAVE
>MAMAS WHO ARE WILLING TO SUCK GURU BUTT TO GET THEM
>SHABBY WINS THAT NOONE RESPECTS. LOL (NT) --
>Anonymous, 06:16:51 09/07/02 Sat
>Re: I thought they wanted more natural looks for this
>pageant? (NT) -- Anonymous, 06:43:10 09/07/02 Sat
>They tell you that but it is BULLSHIT. All the winners
>are big pros faked up just like they are at GD. WHAT
>about the fact they judge their own pageant don't you
>understand? It is all about their clients and ALL
>their clients are made up heavy and have all the fake
>hair, etc. (NT) -- Anonymous, 08:14:54 09/07/02 Sat
>Re: Can anyone please make real predictions on this
>pageant and not just vent against T/M! (NT) --
>Anonymous, 08:24:10 09/07/02 Sat
>IF THEY WERE NOT SUCH JERKS, IT WOULD NOT BE
>HAPPENING. HERE IS A PREDICTION FOR YOU....ALL THE
>WINNERS WILL BE THEIR BUSINESS PARTNERS KIDS, BEST
>FRIENDS KIDS, CLIENTS KIDS AND THE PEOPLE HAVE MONEY
>THAT THEY WANT TO BE THEIR CLIENTS WILL ALLLLLLL WIN.
>IT IS ALWAYS THAT WAY. THEY JUDGE THEIR OWN PAGEANT,
>THAT SAYS IT ALL. (NT) -- Anonymous, 08:25:40 09/07/02
>Sat
>
>
>Subject: Mystical Dreams vs. FF
>
>
>Author:
>Anonymous
>
>-------------------------------------------------------
>-------------------------
>Date Posted: 07:30:05 09/07/02 Sat
>
>-------------------------------------------------------
>-------------------------
>Has anybody bothered to call Toni O. yet and tell her
>what she's getting herself into with this MD director?
>The director got Toni hook, line&sinker by giving
>Toni's kid a grand supreme in one of her many photo
>contests to ensure that Toni would come...also gave
>grand supreme entries to some of Toni's other kids,
>including CF to make sure the kid didn't even go back
>and crown at FF and came to her pageant instead. The
>woman has a ran a heavy line of crock by Toni telling
>Toni she already has 30 paid entries in her hand and
>that is she is giving the money no matter what and
>Toni has fallen for it......has anybody bothered to
>tell Toni how involved Michael Butler is in this thing
>and that once Linda gets Toni and her kids there and
>she gets their money, they are ALL getting screwed???
>
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>
>Replies:
>Well, people WARNED THO about getting involved with FF
>last year and their her kid and her favorties clients
>got screwed. She did not listen about T and M, even
>tho she KNEW what they were capable of. I doubt she
>will listen about this either. FF is far more
>political because t/m control more judges and people
>than BUTLER, imo. (NT) -- Anonymous, 08:10:46 09/07/02
>Sat
>At least the winners Toni did have at FF last year GOT
>their $. No way will this lady pay this $. Her entire
>pageant was planned with Michael Butler to hurt FF.
>She has given every single one of Toni's major clients
>a free entry to this pageant, and many more free
>entries as well, and claiming she has 30 paid entries
>in hand. I just hate to see all these kids get
>screwed. The woman will never be able to pay her
>money. Would love to see some initials of these
>supposed 30 "paid" entries she has! (NT) --
>Subject: On a post below, a poster tells about the
>fall business that Lopez started.
>
>
>Author:
>Anonymous
>
>-------------------------------------------------------
>-------------------------
>Date Posted: 06:20:16 09/07/02 Sat
>
>-------------------------------------------------------
>-------------------------
>They posted that Troy and Michael put up a banner on
>the Bravo making fun of Farrah's Falls. I think that
>is the dirtiest thing I have ever heard of. They were
>big buddies and Farah's mom was SOOOOOOOO into them.
>The posts says that they were made because she started
>that business. The NOW have a fall business and the
>poster said they were so greedy they wanted that too,
>along with their other 6 or 7 spin off COI businesses.
>They have got to be the most selfish people I have
>heard of. They want it all. I wish I could have seen
>the banner they put up making fun of her fall
>business. But that is the way they are. They can't
>stand for anyone to have ANYTHING but them. What did
>the banner say? I would like to hear more about this,
>it is one of the tackier things they have done,
>besides bashing kids on the internet because they were
>mad at their parents.
>
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>
>Replies:
>Re: It is not F. Lopez. (NT) -- Anonymous, 06:26:30
>09/07/02 Sat
>THEN WHO IS F'S MOM. THEY ALSO HAD A FALLING OUT WITH
>FL AND HER MOM OVER SOMETHING. (NT) -- Anonymous,
>06:41:43 09/07/02 Sat
>Re: Lopez switched to Toni O for h/m. that was what
>got them hating on her. (NT) -- Anonymous, 06:44:22
>09/07/02 Sat
>HERE IS THE POST BELOW>>>> T/M do not give a damn if
>she awards the money or not. What they do care about
>is loosing 50 or more contestants in their own
>pageants. Don't you get they do not care about YOU or
>your kid, all they care about is their wallet !
>Remember when F's mom started selling falls and they
>had a banner made ridiculing her ? I was so shocked.
>With 2 pageants and a photography business, you'd
>think they could leave the hair fall business to
>someone else but noooooooo !! (NT) -- Anonymous,
>06:26:34 09/07/02 Sat
>
>
>Subject: MDD vs FF
>
>
>Author:
>Anonymous
>
>-------------------------------------------------------
>-------------------------
>Date Posted: 06:55:05 09/06/02 Fri
>
>-------------------------------------------------------
>-------------------------
>Well I intended to go to FF in the beginning but I've
>definitely changed my mind.
>T&M have been bashing in every single possible way
>since MDD started - not only did they call the
>director and THREATENED her, but they bashed H/M
>coming, kids coming, gosh they even bashed the HOTEL
>price !!
>How can adults go that low ? And the worse is they
>must think we are so damn stupid and no see through
>them.
>
>So... we're headed to MDD instead. Butler is supposed
>to "run the show". He was supposed to run quite a
>number of pageants this year (including some he didnt
>even come to). He was supposed to run ED last year -
>but guess who won a Supreme and 8 door titles ? It
>wasn't LB ! LOL.
>
>I just wish all of the directors would stop taking us
>for fools and let us make our own decisions. T/M sure
>showed their true faces these past few months and I
>for one am NOT liking them.
>
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>
>Replies:
>T/M are egotistical, nasty, and twofaced creeps. They
>bash anyone and everyone that is not tied in with them
>and their systems. They have been into wars with every
>other big name h/m person and are in wars with parents
>that leave them for someone better. They showed their
>true colors years ago when the bashed kids all over
>the internet and spit in the face of the woman holding
>her child. The reason they spit on her was because she
>had the guts to call their pageant systems what they
>are which is hi-priced POLITICAL TRASH.. imho (NT) --
>Anonymous, 07:15:31 09/06/02 Fri
>Amen Sister !!! (NT) -- Anonymous, 08:49:30 09/06/02
>Fri
>Please go to MDD........I don't think I can be in the
>same room much less hotel with people who are sooooooo
>worried over a CHILDRENS beauty pageant!! Please
>go,go, go to MDD and shut the HELL up!!!!!!! I will
>got to faces and bring back hopefully one of those
>gorgeous crowns!!!! (NT) -- Anonymous, 08:55:09
>09/06/02 Fri
>Please go to MDD........I don't think I can be in the
>same room much less hotel with people who are sooooooo
>worried over a CHILDRENS beauty pageant!! Please
>go,go, go to MDD and shut the HELL up!!!!!!! I will
>got to faces and bring back hopefully one of those
>gorgeous crowns!!!! (NT) -- Anonymous, 08:55:10
>09/06/02 Fri
>LOL if you're not "worried" then what are you doing
>here ? Pot calling the kettle black much !! (NT) --
>Anonymous, 09:04:07 09/06/02 Fri
>THEN YOU BETTER HAVE A WHOLE BUNCH OF THAT STINKY GURU
>SH** ALL OVER YOUR NOSE AND FACE. BECAUSE THAT IS WHAT
>IT TAKES TO WIN FF AND NO CROWN IS WORTH THE KIND OF
>STINKY THINGS YOU HAVE TO DO TO WIN AN FF PAGEANT.
>PARTICULARLY WHEN THE DAMN DIRECTOR YOU SUCK BUTT WITH
>JUDGES THEIR OWN PAGEANT. ROTFLMAO (NT) -- Anonymous,
>09:34:36 09/06/02 Fri
>If you know all, please tell who is going to win in
>the 0-4 at faces. (NT) -- Anonymous, 11:12:21 09/06/02
>Fri
>Let me add that I know it is a 0-5 grand, but give me
>winners in each age group as well as the 0-5 grand.
>Convince me BABY! (NT) -- Anonymous, 11:20:00 09/06/02
>Fri
>You'll have to call TM they have the winners list at
>their house. If you BABY them enough maybe they'll
>share it with you BABY. (NT) -- Anonymous, 13:16:40
>09/06/02 Fri
>You have to promise to become a big client of their
>and let them rule you and your child, tell you where
>to go and tell you what to spend. THEN they will give
>you a crown in return. That is how you win FF or GD,
>SUCK BABY SUCK. (NT) -- Anonymous, 06:06:55 09/07/02
>Sat


EVERYONE!!!!!!!!!!!
I understand that a lot of money is spent on these pageants, but arent we all forgeting what true beauty pageants are all about? Us kids-what kind of example are yall setting? I understand that these men are irritating, but u have to face facts-this wont change. U have warned people and it is your choice for u to participate, and they can choose to if they want to. You talk about TM and Butler bashing, and look at what u are doing! I cant believe that people would result to fighting on a message board. Pageants are for enjoyment-your kids enjoyment.

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>
>Subject: Here is some truthfulness about the guru
>directors who are so worried about their pageant. If
>they were not worried, they would not have called
>their soldiers out to post for them on any board where
>they are being exposed.
>
>
>Author:
>Anonymous
>
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>Date Posted: 16:39:30 09/06/02 Fri
>
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>
>They start out with all the sugarcoated lies then they
>move on to snare the big money from anyone who is
>willing to pay. After you pay in several thousand
>dollars, you begin to see that that money is going for
>their child and their wins. If you happen to compete
>in the same supreme group, you start noticing a
>tearing down of your child in suttle ways. This
>happens if they are scared your child might win out.
>They make fun of them in underhanded tacky ways and
>someone who has a brain begins to see the method they
>use. They try to brainwash you that THEIR child is
>better than everyone else and that you have to come in
>second place or suffer the consequences. I guess some
>people who don't have a child in their age group or
>supreme group might last longer than those who do. It
>also depends on how much money you got and how long
>they can suck you dry and you not figure it out. A
>year would be about right because that is about 4 or 5
>pageants and that is where the true colors start
>showing after seeing their displays or arrogance and
>spitefulness.
>
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>This post describes (NT) -- Anonymous, 05:59:22
>09/07/02 Sat
>Re: This post describes T AND M like it was written
>for them. rotflmao, cuz I am sure it was. LOL LOL LOL
>LOL (NT) -- Anonymous, 06:00:08 09/07/02 Sat


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