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Date Posted: 12:44:58 11/28/02 Thu
Author: Anonymous
Subject: Re: MORE MONEY-MORE MONEY-MORE MONEY
In reply to: 's message, "MORE MONEY-MORE MONEY-MORE MONEY" on 14:24:52 11/27/02 Wed

>ARE THESE DIRECTORS LOSING THEIR MINDS!!!!!!! They
>must think we are idiots. Prices were high before and
>numbers were low, and now they have a new "SCAM".
>Enter their photo contest to win your fees paid. WELL
>HONEY IF YOU PLAN ON WINNING ANYTHING OTHER THAN GRAND
>SUPREME YOU BETTER PLAN ON GETTING YOUR WALLET OUT BIG
>TIME, BECAUSE THAT PHOTO WIN WONT COVER ANYTHING ELSE.
>Some MONEY HUNGRY director found a new way to jab us
>some more and all the others are following along. ALL
>YOU MINI SUPREMES AND NOVICE WINNERS BETTER MAKE
>ANOTHER TRIP TO THE BANK. It seems like when one
>director tries to make pageants better ten others try
>to screw us a little more.If we dont stand up for
>outselves it will only get worse. Things have changed
>so much in the last 6 years I cant imagine what it
>will be like in 6 more years. How much more is
>everyone going take? It would be so nice to see
>scoresheets and master sheets at the pageant like they
>used to. It makes it a lot harder to cheat. It would
>be nice to have reputable judges that could care less
>who won and who they know. Years ago the directors
>used to put pictures of their judges and their
>credentials on their paperwork. No one knew them so it
>really didnt matter. Now they wont spend the money to
>get those type of judges for several reasons, being,
>cheating to get who they want wearing that crown and
>spending any more money .SOMEONE NEEDS TO PUT UP A
>BOARD TO RATE PAGEANTS AND TELL WHAT THE REASONS ARE
>FOR THE RATING GOOD OR BAD.I dont think they should be
>rated bad because someone didnt win but for things
>that can be proven. In fact If someone else dosent do
>it I just might.THEY HAVE EVERY KIND OF COMPLAINT
>BOARD, WHY NOT SOMETHING THAT WILL HELP US FOR A
>CHANGE. All your complaining has done nothing but made
>them worse.
>I'm sure they will come on here and bash what I have
>to say but thats o.k. I've heard all their excuses
>before.

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[> Re: MORE MONEY-MORE MONEY-MORE MONEY -- Anonymous, 19:03:47 11/29/02 Fri

>ARE THESE DIRECTORS LOSING THEIR MINDS!!!!!!! They
>must think we are idiots. Prices were high before and
>numbers were low, and now they have a new "SCAM".
>Enter their photo contest to win your fees paid. WELL
>HONEY IF YOU PLAN ON WINNING ANYTHING OTHER THAN GRAND
>SUPREME YOU BETTER PLAN ON GETTING YOUR WALLET OUT BIG
>TIME, BECAUSE THAT PHOTO WIN WONT COVER ANYTHING ELSE.
>Some MONEY HUNGRY director found a new way to jab us
>some more and all the others are following along. ALL
>YOU MINI SUPREMES AND NOVICE WINNERS BETTER MAKE
>ANOTHER TRIP TO THE BANK. It seems like when one
>director tries to make pageants better ten others try
>to screw us a little more.If we dont stand up for
>outselves it will only get worse. Things have changed
>so much in the last 6 years I cant imagine what it
>will be like in 6 more years. How much more is
>everyone going take? It would be so nice to see
>scoresheets and master sheets at the pageant like they
>used to. It makes it a lot harder to cheat. It would
>be nice to have reputable judges that could care less
>who won and who they know. Years ago the directors
>used to put pictures of their judges and their
>credentials on their paperwork. No one knew them so it
>really didnt matter. Now they wont spend the money to
>get those type of judges for several reasons, being,
>cheating to get who they want wearing that crown and
>spending any more money .SOMEONE NEEDS TO PUT UP A
>BOARD TO RATE PAGEANTS AND TELL WHAT THE REASONS ARE
>FOR THE RATING GOOD OR BAD.I dont think they should be
>rated bad because someone didnt win but for things
>that can be proven. In fact If someone else dosent do
>it I just might.THEY HAVE EVERY KIND OF COMPLAINT
>BOARD, WHY NOT SOMETHING THAT WILL HELP US FOR A
>CHANGE. All your complaining has done nothing but made
>them worse.
>I'm sure they will come on here and bash what I have
>to say but thats o.k. I've heard all their excuses
>before.
You are right-they do need a pageant rating board. But we have just started pageants in August & each program book lists the judges & the credentials. Maybe the Northeast has more honest pageant system. I moved up North 13 years ago but I used to attend Southern pageants and they weren't that bad. Apparently they are now..........


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[> [> Re: You are doing the wrong pageants then -- Anonymous, 05:04:09 12/10/02 Tue

Try NES they give individual scoresheets out, masters available and judges names and bios are in the program books, just a couple of things you complained about above. There are plenty of other pageants like NES you just have to check around and find the good ones. In the Northeast I don't know of any pageant that cheats, they are very fair up here all of them


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