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Author: Danger Author Host/IP: 24.10.210.99 |
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Date Posted: 23:39:32 01/15/06 Sun In reply to: PRP 's message, "Commom Sense / Honest Pedigree" on 03:06:15 01/14/06 Sat >It is very extraordinary how over the years the Old >Family Red Nose has taken on many different >appearances. One reason for this blunder is due to >human motives and breeding methods that are both >seriously questioned. > >For example, many who have Red Colored DOGS >automatically assume their line is part of the OFRN >strain that began and faded away many years ago. In >most cases the breeding of these DOGS died with the >breeders who took on the task of breeding them. What >we have today is a number of misplaced “titles” and >names of other breeders who for some very strange >reason use the term “HEMPHILL BRED” when describing >their particular line. This becomes very confusing >since no one today is a actual “breeding partner” of >any of the men who bred the Old Family Red Nose over >40 years ago. > >After Bob Hemphill and a few others passed off the >earthly scene, along with their DOGS, no one today >could rightfully claim they have a high % of Bob >Hemphill DOGS or OFRN. This would be a serious >misleading concept when describing a particular RED >NOSE FAMILY. > >Common Sense and the Honest Pedigree put such notions >to rest very easily. NO DOGS from the Wallace strains >or Hemphill were preserved long enough in the stream >of time to be considered even close to those older >lines and breeding done by those 2 gentlemen. In other >words, none exist today as many are led to believe. >Many who have taken the selfish liberty of associating >themselves with Bob Hemphill are only fooling >themselves. Bob Hemphill did his cull and breeding >while he was alive, not from the grave. > >The pedigree of the OFRN usually will trace back to >the old Irish/English imports. DOGS like Harvey’s Red >Devil, Ferguson’s Centipede, Lightner’s Vick and >Colby’s Tige are the breeding foundation core of the >true OFRN strains. Obviously if a RED NOSE FAMILY >contains a fraction of that blood 20 generations back, >it would be common sense to conclude that it would >have minimal influence in the modern Red Nose Family >today, thus not deserving of the term Old Family Red >Nose or Hemphill’s So n So attached to that particular >breeding strain or line just because its RED in color. > >Today there are many RED NOSE FAMILIES. Many, many >years ago there was what was called Old Family Red >Nose. History proves, that such a line of DOGS do not >exist today, nor the men associated with such DOGS. If >we are honest about what we have we can take the >pleasure of placing the proper descriptive titles to >distinguish one line from the other. Using common >sense and the honest pedigree makes a world of >difference and will help to keep history accurate. > >PRP John Hunt I see you have another handle or is it another one of your pesonalities coming out? How can you make a comment about human motives and breeding standards? What was your motive in breeding an eleven month old pup, yearlings and untested dogs? Who do you know that claims to have been a breeding partner of Hemphill? I have never seen or heard anyone claiming Hemphill bred. That would imply it was bred by Hemphill himself. I know of a half of dozen men and a woman still alive who have owned and bred pure Hemphill dogs and NONE ever claimed to have been a partner of Hemphill's. Where are you getting your info from? It damn sure wasn't from them. I know of several people who have high % Hemphill and OFRN dogs. There is nothing misleading when you see a pedigree of a dog that is 7/8ths or more of a particular family. Genetically that dog has been preserved almost in its original form and will show traits and characteristics of that family. Doesn't matter who's name is on the pedigree or who bred it. Genetically it is what it is. Your knowledge of the history of OFRN dogs is limited, regional and slanted. It's real easy to find out the history of these dogs. Pick up the phone and call the oldtimers who owned and bred OFRN. What you will learn is they all tell the same story just in different ways. If you want to find about Hemphill dogs call the men and woman who owned, bred and tested pure Hemphill dogs. You have made absoulte statements with no proof. The Hemphill bloodline is very much alive and still showing the traits the dogs are known for. Some are actually improved versions of the dogs Hemphill left. There were many different lines and breeders that made up the OFRN dogs. The dogs just don't trace back to 3 or 4 dogs like you mentioned. Feeley was considered to have the purest, the same blood behind Dibo. Corvino, Shipley, Corchran and sevearl others had OFRN dogs that were not Lightner bred. With your limited knowledge who are you to decide what is deserving of a OFRN title. Hell with your breeding standards you are no more deserving of breeding Poodles. OFRN is a term used to describe a bloodline and there are breeders today that specialize in the blood FigTree with all your handles I mean personalities you can form another OFBA. [ Next Thread | Previous Thread | Next Message | Previous Message ] |
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