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Subject: If one can heal, what's the need for a hospital?


Author:
prinncesss
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Date Posted: 15:11:10 01/10/02 Thu
In reply to: Secular Monkey 's message, "He might "approve" it in theory, but in practice..." on 16:10:48 01/08/02 Tue

>>>>As far as the faith healers go, I wasn't watching
>it,
>>>>John was, but I was listening in the background. I
>>>>just didn't feel it was necessary to go into the
>>>>details of how I heard it. Nevertheless, I was
>>>>listening, and do watch from time to time. I think
>>>>some of them are genuine. It 'is' Biblical.
>>>
>>>OK. So's "stoning". Actually, you could easily
>>>document the physical effect a stoning would have on
>>>the recipient, unlike faith-healing.
>>
>>By Biblical, I mean Godly,
>>approved by God. Stoning is IN the Bible, as a part of
>>history, but not advocated. Do you see the
>>difference?

>
>No. There's been sooo many "healers" exposed by guys
>like James Randi, and there's yet to be a documented
>case of a successful "healing". If a "healer" hasn't
>been debunked yet, it's cause Randi hasn't gotten to
>him yet. Tell me you don't tune in to the "Psychic
>Hotline"! Well, at least the psychics on tv have a
>disclaimer stating that it's just for entertainment
>purposes. If you want the full scoop on faith
>healers, let me know. Their schemes are well
>documented. Lemme ask ya: if you could really heal
>people, wouldn't you hang out at a hospital instead of
>going on tv in a bad suit smackin' people in the
>forehead?

And I'm sure they do go to hospitals. Haven't you ever seen clergy in a hospital or nursing home?

I know a person who has the gift of healing, and have been healed by him several times. John, my bf has layed his hands on my head (I get chronic headaches) and I've felt my headache leave my head almost instantaniously. It's not worked every time, but more than not.

I don't associate with miss cleo or any other nut that's offering to give me information I already know.

I'm not a huge believer in televangelists and faith healers to even start this argument anyway Monkey. This is NOT one of my buttons so to speak.


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[> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Documented cases of healings


Author:
Prinn
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Date Posted: 15:26:45 01/10/02 Thu

That is, besides me, and the double skull fracture I receieved when I was six weeks old:

http://autoperl.skwc.com/chr_faithhealing.html

http://www.bruno-groening.org/english/heilungen/welcomeheilungen.htm

http://www.geocities.com/paulntobin/healings.html

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[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: documented?


Author:
Secular Monkey
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Date Posted: 16:27:34 01/10/02 Thu

Benny Hinn??? ROTFLMAO! This rip-off shyster has been de-bunked long ago.

www.cephasministry.com/charismatics_behind_the_scenes.html

Be careful of what you call "documented". And testimonies are fairly worthless. If I believe you when you say you were healed, I'd have to believe my neighbour who says he was abducted by aliens. Did you not receive medical attention when you were in your accident? Of course you did. Did you pull through, against the odds? Obviously. You attribute this to the supernatural? You could if you went to a church instead of a hospital but, fortunately, that ain't the case. BTW, last month a 4 year old boy was killed after coming out of his church and was struck by a car. Need I say more?

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[> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: tell your boyfriend to contact James Randi


Author:
Secular Monkey
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Date Posted: 16:08:32 01/10/02 Thu

if he can prove that he can "heal", there's a big reward waiting for him (it's over a million bucks, now)

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