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Subject: Re: I know I'm not supposed to be here, but I have a sincere question Author: bj [ Next Thread | Previous Thread | Next Message | Previous Message ] Date Posted: 00:36:49 01/13/02 Sun In reply to: Robert Nicholson 's message, "Re: Amen!" on 17:23:03 01/12/02 Sat How do you reconcile your statement: I believe that God is omniscient(knows all)...omnipotent,He is unlimited in His power, with the exception of being in anyway evil... My question, if your god is omniscient and omnipresent then wouldn't it be true that if evil exists he is evil or if as you say with the exception of being in anyway evil...that evil then does not exist? This is a fair question. [ Next Thread | Previous Thread | Next Message | Previous Message ]

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[> [> [> Subject: Fair question indeed bj Author: prinncesss [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 15:47:46 01/13/02 Sun >How do you reconcile your statement: >I believe that God is omniscient(knows >all)...omnipotent,He is unlimited in His power, >with the exception of being in anyway evil... > >My question, if your god is omniscient and omnipresent >then wouldn't it be true that if evil exists he is >evil or if as you say with the exception of being >in anyway evil...that evil then does not exist? >This is a fair question. Because evil is the absence of God. It does exist, but not in a part of God. His being everywhere doesn't mean there isn't evil. With God, what we know and see is different than what He knows and sees. He sees the whole picture. We don't. We "know" but it's hard to fathom, that the battle is already won. Jesus' work on the cross is complete, and satan is destroyed, yet we live here and watch it unfold because we are on different time than God. Not everything is logically explained because not everything is subject to the human standard of knowledge. We, as humans are lacking in understanding. And God is not subject to our little glimpse of understanding. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> Subject: Re: I know I'm not supposed to be here, but I have a sincere question Author: nobody [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 19:39:24 01/14/02 Mon >>My question, if your god is omniscient and omnipresent then wouldn't it be true that if evil exists he is evil or if as you say with the exception of being in anyway evil...that evil then does not exist? This is a fair question. Could an all knowing,ever present God allow his creatures freedom? Freedom to do that which He does not delight in? [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> Subject: Re: Questions and answers Author: bj [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 11:14:43 01/15/02 Tue Could an all knowing,ever present God allow his >creatures freedom? This question is flawed, as it presupposes something beyond the "God" it questions, so therefore, there is no real answer possible. Freedom to do that which He does not delight in? This question, too, is flawed, as it assumes that this limited "God" could conceive of something it does not delight in and therefore once again cannot be answered. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> [> Subject: That doesn't make sense bj.... Author: nobody [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 17:32:16 01/15/02 Tue >Could an all knowing,ever present God allow his >>creatures freedom? > >This question is flawed, as it presupposes something >beyond the "God" it questions, so therefore, there is >no real answer possible. Beyond God in what sense? How does moral freedom put one beyond God? >Freedom to do that which He does not delight in? > >This question, too, is flawed, as it assumes that this >limited "God" could conceive of something it does >not delight in and therefore once again cannot >be answered. That is just silly. Why couldn't an all knowing God NOT delight in certain behaviors of free creatures? Really bj,these seem like unfounded assertions. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]