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Subject: A question open for discussion?

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Samoria

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Date Posted: 05:09:32 01/14/02 Mon
In reply to: nobody 's message, "Re: Amen!" on 16:05:26 01/13/02 Sun

>>>We are saved by grace through faith in Jesus Christ
>>>and this is available to anyone who wishes to receive
>>>it.
>
>I agree - but I don't think Jamers did - James chpt.2

Please clarify for me... what do you mean? Are you claiming that James did not preach that we are saved by grace *alone* and not by work? I'm confused. Please clarify. Thank you. =)

Btw all.. Hiya! My first time here.. I followed a Prinncesss here... yay for CARM boards! ;) I'm open for much discussion.. but I admit, my 'expertise' is in the area of Latter Day Saints (Mormons..)

Cheers,
Samoria

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[> [> [> [> Subject: Re: A question open for discussion?
Author: nobody [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 06:16:55 01/14/02 Mon Yes Samoria,I believe James clearly contradicted the teaching of Paul. That James taught that we are justified by faith and works as opposed to faith apart from works - Rom.4. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> Subject: No contradiction between James and Paul

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prinncesss
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Date Posted: 08:00:37 01/14/02 Mon

>>>>We are saved by grace through faith in Jesus Christ
>>>>and this is available to anyone who wishes to
>receive
>>>>it.
>>
>>I agree - but I don't think Jamers did - James chpt.2
>
>Please clarify for me... what do you mean? Are you
>claiming that James did not preach that we are saved
>by grace *alone* and not by work? I'm confused.
>Please clarify. Thank you. =)
>
>Btw all.. Hiya! My first time here.. I followed a
>Prinncesss here... yay for CARM boards! ;) I'm open
>for much discussion.. but I admit, my 'expertise' is
>in the area of Latter Day Saints (Mormons..)
>
> Cheers,
> Samoria

James only supports what Paul says. He is just saying that works are evidence of faith, not the substance of it.

Thanks for coming Samoria, good to have you.

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[> [> [> [> [> Subject: Sorry to disagree
Author: nobody [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 18:23:33 01/14/02 Mon >James only supports what Paul says. He is just >saying that works are evidence of faith, not the >substance of it. This is untrue. First point - how was the condition of Gen.15:6 met: By faith apart from works Rom.4:3-6? Or by faith and works James 2:21,22,23? [ Post a Reply to This Message ]