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Subject: Re: What I learned in Church

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Date Posted: 08:23:01 12/30/01 Sun
In reply to: S 's message, "What I learned in Church" on 20:21:37 12/29/01 Sat

"Faith, hope and love, but the greatest of these is love."

One of the few Bible verses I quote without sarcasm.

I personally don't need to believe in a god who looks like an old white man and lords over a kingdom in the sky in order to feel secure. I think that works for a lot of people, though.

I prefer to believe that we get our strength from the earth itself, from the people we love, from the great outdoors that sustains us, from the poor dumb kitty cats who trust us and so on.

If I'm really in need of spiritual rejuvenation, I go sit on the banks of Black Creek and soak in the sound of the water and the smell of the pine trees. If I'm lucky, none of my cousins shoot at me or show up half neked with a 12 pack of Coors.

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Date Posted: 08:40:47 12/30/01 Sun

My favorite place to go to feel "spiritual" is Spider Rock. Have you ever been there? It is in Canyon de Chelly in Arizona.

It's odd for someone who grew up in the piney woods, but I feel really connected to life and earth and all that mooshy stuff in that desert.

I've gone out there on school business a few times. I stayed in a dorm room at Dine College. One night I was sitting in the lobby of the dorm when this drunk man wandered in. He had apparently come to the wrong hogan by mishstake. Didn't bother him, though. He just kicked back and started talking to me.

When he started telling stories that began "when I was in Nam," I refilled my coffee and took my shoes off. We were gonna be there for a while.

The funniest part, though, to me was that he thought I was a student there in this all Navajo school. I don't particularly look like my Choctaw and Cherokee great-grands except for dark hair and eyes, but this kind of thing has happened to me on numerous occasions.

This man kept saying he was proud of me for getting an education and learning something about life off the rez. In Oklahoma, I'd have people stop and ask me which way to the pow wow as if they thought I'd just come from there.

One of my friends said that I had a freakish spiritual connection to Native Americans, and they could feel the indian in me even when it wasn't visible.

I don't know about that, but I do have a freakish spiritual connection to places that mean something to Native Americans, and my favorite to date is Spider Rock.

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Author: S [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 13:43:00 12/30/01 Sun http://www.navajoland.com/cdc/7.shtml Just a hunk of rock, but I like it. Hey, Aileen, how do you set links on here?