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Subject: What's love got to do with it Author: Ike (NOT) [ Next Thread | Previous Thread | Next Message | Previous Message ] Date Posted: 11:32:57 01/08/02 Tue For one thing, in America since about 1800 (before that many marriages were arranged) romantic love has been idolized more and more. We expect to "fall in love:" our hearts should instantly throb, our thoughts constantly dwell on the lover, and our sexual organs continuously moisten. Many of us hunger for this kind of intense, consuming love, even if it isn't our nature to be wildly romantic. We believe that some magical day it will happen: we'll "meet and instantly recognize the right person" and "live happily ever after" until "death do us part!" How do these notions from movies and novels fit with reality? Poorly! Perhaps, in some situations, some of us can be cautious, rational, and able to avoid getting prematurely infatuated. But half of us or more are "head-over-heals" before we know much about the person; our heart (and/or genitals) has overwhelmed our brain. Tragically, this highly romantic person often lacks the will or self-confidence to withdraw from the relationship if problems appear. We need to use our brain a lot more (without taking our heart or genitals out of the loop); we need to know a lot more about love, the different kinds of love, what kind of lovers we are, and many other things. A few questions... Love is nature's trick to insure the species? Love and sex are two different things? Confused in Misery (Missouri that is) [ Next Thread | Previous Thread | Next Message | Previous Message ]

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[> Subject: Re: What's love got to do with it Author: S [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 11:58:14 01/08/02 Tue >A few questions... > >Love is nature's trick to insure the species? > >Love and sex are two different things? > >Confused in Misery (Missouri that is) Yes, love and sex are two different things, but together they make a nice breakfast. Sex is nature's trick to insure the species. Guilt is nature's trick to protect the young. Infatuation is nature's practical joke. Love is nature's reward for surviving the rest.

[> Subject: What's sex got to do with it Author: Tina [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 11:58:25 01/08/02 Tue How do they do it, the ones who make love without love? Beautiful as dancers, gliding over each other like ice-skaters over the ice, fingers hooked inside each other's bodies, faces red as steak, wine, wet as the children at birth, whose mothers are going to give them away. How do they come to the God come to the still waters, and not love the one who came there with them, light rising slowly as steam off their joined skin? These are the true religious, the purists, the pros, the ones who will not accept a false Messiah, love the priest instead of the God. They do not mistake the lover for their own pleasure, they are like great runners: they know they are alone with the road surface, the cold, the wind, the fit of their shoes, their over-all cardio vascular health--just factors, like the partner in the bed, and not the truth, which is the single body alone in the universe against its own best time. -- Sharon Olds

[> [> Subject: Who needs a heart when a heart can be broken? Author: Me, me, me, please... [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 12:04:36 01/08/02 Tue >How do they do it, the ones who make love without >love? Beautiful as dancers, gliding over each other >like ice-skaters over the ice, fingers hooked inside >each other's bodies, faces red as steak, wine, wet as >the children at birth, whose mothers are going to give >them away. How do they come to the God come to the >still waters, and not love > the one who came there with them, light rising slowly >as steam off their joined skin? These are the true >religious, > the purists, the pros, the ones who will not accept a >false Messiah, love the priest instead of the God. >They do not mistake the lover for their own pleasure, >they are like great runners: they know they are alone >with the road surface, the cold, the wind, the fit of >their shoes, their over-all cardio vascular >health--just factors, like the partner in the bed, and >not the truth, which is the single body alone in the >universe against its own best time. > > -- Sharon Olds I like Sharon Olds, btw. Used to "know" someone who bought me Sharon Olds books for occasions. :) Still got the books. Long since forgetten the someone. S

[> [> [> Subject: Kindred spirit even without love Author: Kindred spirit [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 12:21:11 01/08/02 Tue >I like Sharon Olds, btw. Used to "know" someone who >bought me Sharon Olds books for occasions. :) > >Still got the books. Long since forgetten the >someone. > >S Glad you accomodate you. Signed pleaser not teaser