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Date Posted: 20:56:19 04/21/02 Sun
Author: scott s.
Subject: Re: transferring vinyl to CD
In reply to: Brian Bell 's message, "transferring vinyl to CD" on 17:00:14 04/21/02 Sun

definitely using too much NR......

NR should be avoided if you get this type of result, in fact i'll take surface noise over this situation anyday.

if you expecting CD quality, forget it! the limitations of the vinyl format, and especially the watermark pressings will prevent you from doing so. the problem with the watermark stuff is that you are cramming too much into each side (24 mins on average) with a format that usually works best at 18-20 mins/side. groove distortion will take place in the inner most grooves (the hardest for the stylus to track!)and the more program material there, the more distortion you will get. the WWONE pressings using 6 discs, were far better, because the grooves were loud and less on each side. still, they don't compare to some dick clark's rock roll and remember shows I have, coming in at close to 30 mins per side, with low levels and higher surface noise, they are terrible.

still, despite this, there's no reason you can't get something reasonable. record in at 44k/16bit. THEN, using cool edit's software EQ, turn down completely EVERYTHING ABOVE 15khz and EVERYTHING BELOW 80hz on the controls. vinyl has very little above 15k for frequency response, and below 80 hz will cut back rumble.

from here, I use a direct x plug in...steinberg declicker, with customized settings (in the world of restoration, it's trial and error!)which eliminates the majority of the major clicks and pops. the click and pop filter in cool edit was OK, but I like this program myself. then I put the "polish" on with DC Live, again customized settings for virtual elimination of basic vinyl surface noise. you have more control then any other program i've seen for it's NR.

I stress this is what I use, there's no reason you couldn't get great results with cool edit, but I don't have any presets off hand to work with (are you running PRO or cool edit 2000??) but if anything, ideally, it's trial and error to do a really good job. NR should NEVER take away the life of the audio the "soul" as I call it. only the noise. and if it does, let some noise through. keep this in mind when you play with settings.

finally, get a GOOD pair of headphones and get used to listening that way. there is a fair bit of detail you could easily miss listening in speakers which can help you make setting choices for NR software. it's all I use.

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