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Subject: one quick observation...


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sci guy
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Date Posted: 16:14:19 05/13/07 Sun
In reply to: Mo' Green 's message, "He stuck in his thumb, pulled out a plumb and said "what a good boy I am"" on 12:54:43 05/13/07 Sun

Anyone else here notice that Duncan is VERY quick to chastize us here, but doesn't say anything to DE or Curm about how THEY'RE wasting the earth's resources?



>It's all about Duncan, man. His only function is to
>cruise the boards and snark narcacissitically (sp). I
>thought the article was interesting and wouldn't sneer
>at a 40% improvement but it seems they went to
>extrodinary legnths and essentially ended up with a
>vehicle that has the operating chraracteristics of a
>diesel, ie, high torque, more power and better fuel
>economy than a gas SUV.
>
>>I call that a significant step... I guess you
>>wouldn't like to see a 40% improvement in the
>>efficiency of you solar panels, would you?
>>
>>
>>>what do you call that Not so crappy gas mileage or
>>>less crappy then before gas mileage?
>>>
>>>>the power of a hemi, with up to 40% better fuel
>>>economy
>>>>
>>>> >>>>href="http://news.en.autos.sympatico.msn.ca/article.
>a
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>>>>x?cp-documentid=4807256">http://news.en.autos.sympat
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>>c
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>>>>.msn.ca/article.aspx?cp-documentid=4807256

>>>>
>>>>Two-Mode Hybrid Chrysler Aspen & Dodge Durango to
>>>>Arrive in '08
>>>>Chrysler Group's First Application of Two-Mode
>>Hybrid
>>>>advertisement
>>>>Canadian Auto Press
>>>>The unusual technological alliance between
>>>>DaimlerChrysler, BMW and General Motors that started
>>>>in 2005 has resulted in a major groundbreaking
>>>>advancement in terms of hybrid drivetrains. Each of
>>>>the three firms invested approximately one billion
>>>>dollars in the research and development, which was
>>>>conducted in Michigan at the DaimlerChrysler, GM and
>>>>BMW Hybrid Development Centre. A Two-Mode Hybrid
>>>>System is the result, first shown in Chevy's Tahoe
>>>>Hybrid and then in a number of DCX concept vehicles.
>>>>Now it is heading for production in a Dodge and a
>>>>Chrysler. The Two-Mode Hybrid System has been
>>designed
>>>>to be used on almost every type of vehicle made,
>>>>ranging from a compact front-wheel drive car, to a
>>>>midsize SUV, to a large pickup truck. With DCX, the
>>>>first version of this system will be arriving on the
>>>>market starting 2008.
>>>>The 2008 Dodge Durango Hybrid and 2008 Chrysler
>Aspen
>>>>Hybrid will be the first gasoline-electric
>production
>>>>vehicles that Chrysler Group has made, which should
>>>>help spur interest in the brand’s large SUVs.
>>>>Being that the Durango and Aspen are sought after
>for
>>>>their high towing capabilities and ample on-road
>>>>performance, Chrysler Group decided to make the
>>>>5.7-litre HEMI V8 engine the centerpiece of the new
>>>>drivetrain system. Besides offering the muscle
>needed
>>>>in a large sport utility vehicle, this HEMI also
>>>>offers MDS cylinder deactivation, which seamlessly
>>>>shuts off four cylinders under lighter loads.
>>Combined
>>>>with the hybrid assist, Chrysler Group estimates
>that
>>>>the Two-Mode Durango and Aspen will have 25-percent
>>>>better fuel economy than their non-hybrid
>>>>counterparts. The biggest gains will be observed in
>>>>the city, where the engine-stop and electrical
>assist
>>>>are expected to reduce these large SUVs’ thirst by
>up
>>>>to 40-percent!
>>>>What makes the Two-Mode hybrid system different than
>>>>Toyota’s Hybrid Synergy Drive or Honda’s Integrated
>>>>Motor Assist is its layout. It still has a gasoline
>>>>motor, a starter/generator and batteries, and can
>>shut
>>>>off at stoplights, but the main difference is that
>it
>>>>has two sets of gears in its automatic transmission;
>>>>one set is used for the HEMI V8 with four fixed
>>ratios
>>>>(i.e. a four-speed automatic), while the other is
>>used
>>>>for the twin electric motors. The combination of the
>>>>motors and transmissions yields two different
>>>>operating modes. The first is at low speeds, where
>>the
>>>>vehicle can be powered by either the gasoline
>engine,
>>>>the electric motor or both. It uses the first two
>>>>speeds in the automatic transmission. The second
>mode
>>>>is more complex, and revolves around higher speeds
>>and
>>>>engine loads. In this situation, the gasoline engine
>>>>always runs, but the electric motors kick in at
>>>>different points with different ratios, creating the
>>>>effect of a CVT transmission for better efficiency.
>>>>The Two-Mode system is a rather complicated
>>>>drivetrain, but it will ease the thirst and
>emissions
>>>>of large sport utility vehicles. We’re very curious
>>to
>>>>see how the system functions, and how the vehicle
>>will
>>>>drive, but we’ll have to wait until the Durango and
>>>>Aspen Hybrids arrive in 2008. Shortly thereafter,
>>>>General Motors’ version of the system will debut in
>>>>the Tahoe and Yukon, as well as in its half-ton
>>pickup
>>>>truck lineup.

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Don't be busting anyone's paradigmMo' "kooky" Green17:55:33 05/13/07 Sun
Re: one quick observation...Duncan706:52:25 05/14/07 Mon


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