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Date Posted: 08:13:38 05/14/07 Mon In reply to: sci guy 's message, "agreed!" on 14:34:07 05/13/07 Sun When has the use of crude ever gone down? It hasn't. Your way isn't working out. 40% of crap is still 40% of crap. > >With Duncan, if it isn't done HIS way, it isn't any >good. > >What I had to laugh at was his "what do you call that >Not so crappy gas mileage or less crappy then before >gas mileage?" comment. After all, if something is >less crappy, then it's better. I'm sure Duncan would >prefer everything to remain "status quo" so he can >think he's so much betterr than everyone else. > > >>It's all about Duncan, man. His only function is to >>cruise the boards and snark narcacissitically (sp). I >>thought the article was interesting and wouldn't sneer >>at a 40% improvement but it seems they went to >>extrodinary legnths and essentially ended up with a >>vehicle that has the operating chraracteristics of a >>diesel, ie, high torque, more power and better fuel >>economy than a gas SUV. >> >>>I call that a significant step... I guess you >>>wouldn't like to see a 40% improvement in the >>>efficiency of you solar panels, would you? >>> >>> >>>>what do you call that Not so crappy gas mileage or >>>>less crappy then before gas mileage? >>>> >>>>>the power of a hemi, with up to 40% better fuel >>>>economy >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>href="http://news.en.autos.sympatico.msn.ca/article >. >>a >>>s >>>>p >>>>>x?cp-documentid=4807256">http://news.en.autos.sympa >t >>i >>>c >>>>o >>>>>.msn.ca/article.aspx?cp-documentid=4807256 >>>>> >>>>>Two-Mode Hybrid Chrysler Aspen & Dodge Durango to >>>>>Arrive in '08 >>>>>Chrysler Group's First Application of Two-Mode >>>Hybrid >>>>>advertisement >>>>>Canadian Auto Press >>>>>The unusual technological alliance between >>>>>DaimlerChrysler, BMW and General Motors that >started >>>>>in 2005 has resulted in a major groundbreaking >>>>>advancement in terms of hybrid drivetrains. Each of >>>>>the three firms invested approximately one billion >>>>>dollars in the research and development, which was >>>>>conducted in Michigan at the DaimlerChrysler, GM >and >>>>>BMW Hybrid Development Centre. A Two-Mode Hybrid >>>>>System is the result, first shown in Chevy's Tahoe >>>>>Hybrid and then in a number of DCX concept >vehicles. >>>>>Now it is heading for production in a Dodge and a >>>>>Chrysler. The Two-Mode Hybrid System has been >>>designed >>>>>to be used on almost every type of vehicle made, >>>>>ranging from a compact front-wheel drive car, to a >>>>>midsize SUV, to a large pickup truck. With DCX, the >>>>>first version of this system will be arriving on >the >>>>>market starting 2008. >>>>>The 2008 Dodge Durango Hybrid and 2008 Chrysler >>Aspen >>>>>Hybrid will be the first gasoline-electric >>production >>>>>vehicles that Chrysler Group has made, which should >>>>>help spur interest in the brand’s large SUVs. >>>>>Being that the Durango and Aspen are sought after >>for >>>>>their high towing capabilities and ample on-road >>>>>performance, Chrysler Group decided to make the >>>>>5.7-litre HEMI V8 engine the centerpiece of the new >>>>>drivetrain system. Besides offering the muscle >>needed >>>>>in a large sport utility vehicle, this HEMI also >>>>>offers MDS cylinder deactivation, which seamlessly >>>>>shuts off four cylinders under lighter loads. >>>Combined >>>>>with the hybrid assist, Chrysler Group estimates >>that >>>>>the Two-Mode Durango and Aspen will have 25-percent >>>>>better fuel economy than their non-hybrid >>>>>counterparts. The biggest gains will be observed in >>>>>the city, where the engine-stop and electrical >>assist >>>>>are expected to reduce these large SUVs’ thirst by >>up >>>>>to 40-percent! >>>>>What makes the Two-Mode hybrid system different >than >>>>>Toyota’s Hybrid Synergy Drive or Honda’s Integrated >>>>>Motor Assist is its layout. It still has a gasoline >>>>>motor, a starter/generator and batteries, and can >>>shut >>>>>off at stoplights, but the main difference is that >>it >>>>>has two sets of gears in its automatic >transmission; >>>>>one set is used for the HEMI V8 with four fixed >>>ratios >>>>>(i.e. a four-speed automatic), while the other is >>>used >>>>>for the twin electric motors. The combination of >the >>>>>motors and transmissions yields two different >>>>>operating modes. The first is at low speeds, where >>>the >>>>>vehicle can be powered by either the gasoline >>engine, >>>>>the electric motor or both. It uses the first two >>>>>speeds in the automatic transmission. The second >>mode >>>>>is more complex, and revolves around higher speeds >>>and >>>>>engine loads. In this situation, the gasoline >engine >>>>>always runs, but the electric motors kick in at >>>>>different points with different ratios, creating >the >>>>>effect of a CVT transmission for better efficiency. >>>>>The Two-Mode system is a rather complicated >>>>>drivetrain, but it will ease the thirst and >>emissions >>>>>of large sport utility vehicles. We’re very curious >>>to >>>>>see how the system functions, and how the vehicle >>>will >>>>>drive, but we’ll have to wait until the Durango and >>>>>Aspen Hybrids arrive in 2008. Shortly thereafter, >>>>>General Motors’ version of the system will debut in >>>>>the Tahoe and Yukon, as well as in its half-ton >>>pickup >>>>>truck lineup. [ Next Thread | Previous Thread | Next Message | Previous Message ] |