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Subject: taxable or non taxable benefit?


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sci guy
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Date Posted: 12:25:39 04/24/07 Tue
In reply to: Oropan 's message, "my health care costs....ZERO" on 11:56:11 04/24/07 Tue

if it was taxable, then YOU paid for it.
if it was non-taxable, then the taxpayer subsidized you.

Either way, it isn't zero cost.


>My employer paid it when I was working and still pays
>it after I retired.
>When i'm 65 I get medicare and my former employer pays
>for a supplimental that includes ALL prescriptions.
>
>
>
>>$CAN24/month. $288/year..... lets see... over my
>>expected lifetime of 85 years, that amounts to
>>$24,480. So 2 years of US health care coverage in the
>>US would cover me for my lifetime!
>>
>>Yes, people who travel to foreign countries are well
>>advised to buy supplemental health coverage, especialy
>>when travelling to a country like the US that doesn't
>>provide universal health care. When your 80 year old
>>friend buys his insurance for $5000 for the 3 months
>>he's in the US, it's a damn sight better than the
>>hundreds of thousands he'd be forced to fork over if
>>his heart failed or he had a stroke while he was
>>there. My guess is his health isn't perfect, and they
>>consider him a bit of a risk. I get complete coverage
>>for only a few hundred dollars for my years travels to
>>the UK and Europe and it would be valid in the US as
>>well (if I was still travelling to the US, which I
>>won't until Bush is out...)
>>
>>
>>>If you think health insurance is free in countries
>>>with national health care you might want to ask
>sciguy
>>>who lives in Canada. They pay through the nose for
>>>their health care and they have to pay whether yhey
>>>want it or not. Somehow you kooky leftists have it in
>>>your head that stuff that comes from the government
>is
>>>free!
>>>Here is some more info for you....I'm in AZ in the
>>>winter with many Canadians as neighbors. They have
>>>little good to say about their national healthcare.
>>>And when they are in the US during the winter they
>>>have to buy healthcare coverage out of their own
>>>pocket while out of Canada. The couple next to me
>told
>>>me that this was their last year to come south for
>the
>>>winter because he was turning 80 years old and the
>>>cost to buy insurance for just him would be $5000 for
>>>the three months they are in AZ. and they can't
>afford
>>>it. This national healthcare thing falls under the
>old
>>>saying...."Beware of what you wish for, for surely
>you
>>>will get it."
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> A family of 4 pays 12,000 a year for health
>>>>coverage, plus deductables and co-pays, most of that
>>>>money goes to the rich, not the government. If you
>>>>make 75,000 a year or less, tax cuts are irrelevent,
>>>>you are paying the "capitalism tax", which is the
>>huge
>>>>amount of money you spend on health care that goes
>to
>>>>filthy rich corperate executives and wall $treet,
>>>>along with advertising agencies, all of these taxes
>>>>are not payed by people living in free, democratic
>>>>countries that have national health care like
>western
>>>>europe, canada, and japan.
>>>>
>>>> Btw, think about how much more people pay for
>>>>energy now than they did at the beginning of the
>>>>decade. Throw in food, education, other insurances,
>>>>and you begin to understand why america has a
>>negetive
>>>>savings rate, the only time this has happened since
>>>>the great depression.
>>>>
>>>>>A family of four pays ZERO tax with an income in
>the
>>>>>forty thousands and even more if they itemize their
>>>>>deductions like home mortage. More kids...you can
>>>earn
>>>>>even more and pay zero tax. The top 10% of earners
>>>pay
>>>>>90% of all taxes here in the US. I guess that's
>>>>>because we have such an unfair tax system here that
>>>>>doesn't tax those terrible rich people enough!
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>Half pay no taxes? Hmmmm incomes are too low to
>>>>pay
>>>>>>taxes, huh? Such a shame that a capitalist
>society
>>>>>>manages to keep so many people poor.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Today's the deadline.....except for the 44% of
>>>>>>>americans that pay NO income tax!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>Yep,
>>>>>>>hard to believe but we are fast approaching that
>>>>half
>>>>>>>of all people will pay NO income tax. Maybe some
>>>day
>>>>>>>we will get down to where just twenty or thirty
>>>>>people
>>>>>>>will pay all the taxes...you know, those rich
>>SOB's
>>>>>>>that you all hate. What a great Country we live
>in
>>>>>>>that we can just have rich people pay all our
>>>>>>>Countries bills for us. Who would have thunk it
>>one
>>>>>>>hundred years ago!!!

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