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Author: sci guy |
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Date Posted: 12:25:39 04/24/07 Tue In reply to: Oropan 's message, "my health care costs....ZERO" on 11:56:11 04/24/07 Tue if it was taxable, then YOU paid for it. if it was non-taxable, then the taxpayer subsidized you. Either way, it isn't zero cost. >My employer paid it when I was working and still pays >it after I retired. >When i'm 65 I get medicare and my former employer pays >for a supplimental that includes ALL prescriptions. > > > >>$CAN24/month. $288/year..... lets see... over my >>expected lifetime of 85 years, that amounts to >>$24,480. So 2 years of US health care coverage in the >>US would cover me for my lifetime! >> >>Yes, people who travel to foreign countries are well >>advised to buy supplemental health coverage, especialy >>when travelling to a country like the US that doesn't >>provide universal health care. When your 80 year old >>friend buys his insurance for $5000 for the 3 months >>he's in the US, it's a damn sight better than the >>hundreds of thousands he'd be forced to fork over if >>his heart failed or he had a stroke while he was >>there. My guess is his health isn't perfect, and they >>consider him a bit of a risk. I get complete coverage >>for only a few hundred dollars for my years travels to >>the UK and Europe and it would be valid in the US as >>well (if I was still travelling to the US, which I >>won't until Bush is out...) >> >> >>>If you think health insurance is free in countries >>>with national health care you might want to ask >sciguy >>>who lives in Canada. They pay through the nose for >>>their health care and they have to pay whether yhey >>>want it or not. Somehow you kooky leftists have it in >>>your head that stuff that comes from the government >is >>>free! >>>Here is some more info for you....I'm in AZ in the >>>winter with many Canadians as neighbors. They have >>>little good to say about their national healthcare. >>>And when they are in the US during the winter they >>>have to buy healthcare coverage out of their own >>>pocket while out of Canada. The couple next to me >told >>>me that this was their last year to come south for >the >>>winter because he was turning 80 years old and the >>>cost to buy insurance for just him would be $5000 for >>>the three months they are in AZ. and they can't >afford >>>it. This national healthcare thing falls under the >old >>>saying...."Beware of what you wish for, for surely >you >>>will get it." >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>> A family of 4 pays 12,000 a year for health >>>>coverage, plus deductables and co-pays, most of that >>>>money goes to the rich, not the government. If you >>>>make 75,000 a year or less, tax cuts are irrelevent, >>>>you are paying the "capitalism tax", which is the >>huge >>>>amount of money you spend on health care that goes >to >>>>filthy rich corperate executives and wall $treet, >>>>along with advertising agencies, all of these taxes >>>>are not payed by people living in free, democratic >>>>countries that have national health care like >western >>>>europe, canada, and japan. >>>> >>>> Btw, think about how much more people pay for >>>>energy now than they did at the beginning of the >>>>decade. Throw in food, education, other insurances, >>>>and you begin to understand why america has a >>negetive >>>>savings rate, the only time this has happened since >>>>the great depression. >>>> >>>>>A family of four pays ZERO tax with an income in >the >>>>>forty thousands and even more if they itemize their >>>>>deductions like home mortage. More kids...you can >>>earn >>>>>even more and pay zero tax. The top 10% of earners >>>pay >>>>>90% of all taxes here in the US. I guess that's >>>>>because we have such an unfair tax system here that >>>>>doesn't tax those terrible rich people enough! >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>Half pay no taxes? Hmmmm incomes are too low to >>>>pay >>>>>>taxes, huh? Such a shame that a capitalist >society >>>>>>manages to keep so many people poor. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>Today's the deadline.....except for the 44% of >>>>>>>americans that pay NO income tax!!!!!!!!!!!!! >Yep, >>>>>>>hard to believe but we are fast approaching that >>>>half >>>>>>>of all people will pay NO income tax. Maybe some >>>day >>>>>>>we will get down to where just twenty or thirty >>>>>people >>>>>>>will pay all the taxes...you know, those rich >>SOB's >>>>>>>that you all hate. What a great Country we live >in >>>>>>>that we can just have rich people pay all our >>>>>>>Countries bills for us. Who would have thunk it >>one >>>>>>>hundred years ago!!! [ Next Thread | Previous Thread | Next Message | Previous Message ] |
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Re: taxable or non taxable benefit? | Oropan | 14:43:46 04/25/07 Wed |