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Author: Oropan |
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Date Posted: 14:43:46 04/25/07 Wed In reply to: sci guy 's message, "taxable or non taxable benefit?" on 12:25:39 04/24/07 Tue It is nontaxable. And who pays your health insurance. Don't tell me the government because you pay very high taxes in Canada to pay for that healthcare. Nothing is free.....even if somebody else pays for it. My healthcare is part of my benefits and thus I worked for it. National healthcare will be paid for by people paying taxes and it will be more expensive than private healthcare....and not as good. >if it was taxable, then YOU paid for it. >if it was non-taxable, then the taxpayer subsidized >you. > >Either way, it isn't zero cost. > > >>My employer paid it when I was working and still pays >>it after I retired. >>When i'm 65 I get medicare and my former employer pays >>for a supplimental that includes ALL prescriptions. >> >> >> >>>$CAN24/month. $288/year..... lets see... over my >>>expected lifetime of 85 years, that amounts to >>>$24,480. So 2 years of US health care coverage in >the >>>US would cover me for my lifetime! >>> >>>Yes, people who travel to foreign countries are well >>>advised to buy supplemental health coverage, >especialy >>>when travelling to a country like the US that doesn't >>>provide universal health care. When your 80 year old >>>friend buys his insurance for $5000 for the 3 months >>>he's in the US, it's a damn sight better than the >>>hundreds of thousands he'd be forced to fork over if >>>his heart failed or he had a stroke while he was >>>there. My guess is his health isn't perfect, and >they >>>consider him a bit of a risk. I get complete >coverage >>>for only a few hundred dollars for my years travels >to >>>the UK and Europe and it would be valid in the US as >>>well (if I was still travelling to the US, which I >>>won't until Bush is out...) >>> >>> >>>>If you think health insurance is free in countries >>>>with national health care you might want to ask >>sciguy >>>>who lives in Canada. They pay through the nose for >>>>their health care and they have to pay whether yhey >>>>want it or not. Somehow you kooky leftists have it >in >>>>your head that stuff that comes from the government >>is >>>>free! >>>>Here is some more info for you....I'm in AZ in the >>>>winter with many Canadians as neighbors. They have >>>>little good to say about their national healthcare. >>>>And when they are in the US during the winter they >>>>have to buy healthcare coverage out of their own >>>>pocket while out of Canada. The couple next to me >>told >>>>me that this was their last year to come south for >>the >>>>winter because he was turning 80 years old and the >>>>cost to buy insurance for just him would be $5000 >for >>>>the three months they are in AZ. and they can't >>afford >>>>it. This national healthcare thing falls under the >>old >>>>saying...."Beware of what you wish for, for surely >>you >>>>will get it." >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> A family of 4 pays 12,000 a year for health >>>>>coverage, plus deductables and co-pays, most of >that >>>>>money goes to the rich, not the government. If you >>>>>make 75,000 a year or less, tax cuts are >irrelevent, >>>>>you are paying the "capitalism tax", which is the >>>huge >>>>>amount of money you spend on health care that goes >>to >>>>>filthy rich corperate executives and wall $treet, >>>>>along with advertising agencies, all of these taxes >>>>>are not payed by people living in free, democratic >>>>>countries that have national health care like >>western >>>>>europe, canada, and japan. >>>>> >>>>> Btw, think about how much more people pay for >>>>>energy now than they did at the beginning of the >>>>>decade. Throw in food, education, other >insurances, >>>>>and you begin to understand why america has a >>>negetive >>>>>savings rate, the only time this has happened since >>>>>the great depression. >>>>> >>>>>>A family of four pays ZERO tax with an income in >>the >>>>>>forty thousands and even more if they itemize >their >>>>>>deductions like home mortage. More kids...you can >>>>earn >>>>>>even more and pay zero tax. The top 10% of earners >>>>pay >>>>>>90% of all taxes here in the US. I guess that's >>>>>>because we have such an unfair tax system here >that >>>>>>doesn't tax those terrible rich people enough! >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>Half pay no taxes? Hmmmm incomes are too low >to >>>>>pay >>>>>>>taxes, huh? Such a shame that a capitalist >>society >>>>>>>manages to keep so many people poor. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>Today's the deadline.....except for the 44% of >>>>>>>>americans that pay NO income tax!!!!!!!!!!!!! >>Yep, >>>>>>>>hard to believe but we are fast approaching that >>>>>half >>>>>>>>of all people will pay NO income tax. Maybe some >>>>day >>>>>>>>we will get down to where just twenty or thirty >>>>>>people >>>>>>>>will pay all the taxes...you know, those rich >>>SOB's >>>>>>>>that you all hate. What a great Country we live >>in >>>>>>>>that we can just have rich people pay all our >>>>>>>>Countries bills for us. Who would have thunk it >>>one >>>>>>>>hundred years ago!!! [ Next Thread | Previous Thread | Next Message | Previous Message ] |