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Date Posted: 09:49:17 10/26/02 Sat
Author: MJ
Author Host/IP: ip68-102-92-123.ks.ok.cox.net / 68.102.92.123
Subject: Re: Time for a new message
In reply to: Mike A. 's message, "Time for a new message" on 18:33:29 10/24/02 Thu

??????'s and more ?????'s and this is long because of all those ???????'s

The car was purchased on Sept 10. Registered on Sept 11 with a Nathaniel Osbourne as co-owner signing the registration. Now Mr. Osbourne is missing. Why is he missing if he has done no more than help out a friend purchase a car? Who is he? Whats his part in all of this? Address used on registration ended up being a club or something like that. Fake addy.

The pair end up in Alabama and kill the lady around Sept 23rd area. Why were they in Alabama area? Did they go out to that Ground Zero training camp? maybe maybe not.

When did they make the holes in the car trunk - and at what location? Were tools needed and how did they get the tools or WHO supplied the tools?

They were sure busy traveling around after Sept 11th before staying in the DC area to do the shootings.

Now only ONCE did I hear of the stolen credit card being taken in Arizona....after the Police Chief in Alabama stated the card was not taken from the killing/area there. When were they in Arizona? The news showed a USA map and had Tacoma, Arizona, Alabama, and the DC area all marked. The newsman stated the stolen CC was taken in Arizona. If they didn't take the CC in Arizona then WHO did and WHO gave it to the pair?

What transportation did they use/or WHO did they travel with to go from Tacoma to NJ to buy the car?

I think they were so pi**ed that no one would talk to them on the hot tip line that they simply lost their cool and popped off about the Ala killing to draw attention to the operator that they were who they said they were. I think it was the kid who must have popped off. The kid wrote the notes the law says.

Was the 'Duck in the noose' a message to their "friends" that they were most likely caught and for the "friends" to take over the plans and carry on? Otherwise, why was it so important to have Chief Moose read that statement???? Or they wanted someone to know they were decoys. http://www.ducksupply.com/decoys_goose_noose.html
[more on codes at the bottom of this post for those of you into that type of thing.]

What about the INS boo boo of letting the kid and his mom stay in the country after jumping ship? Mom got a job in Fl real fast. Kid was in Washington area on his own??? Court released the kid who was 16 without a home, a job, or a parent to care for him and said come back in 10 months for a hearing??? Why weren't they immediately deported?

This case also opens the death penalty can of worms along with the gun grabber can of worms...again.

I saw this posted on another board today and it is something else to chew on [or not] in this crazy mixed up mess.
[Fair use for discussion use only]

For Immediate Release: October 24, 2002
US GOVERNMENT PLANNED SNIPER ATTACKS
PENTAGON PLANNED TO CARRY OUT SNIPER ATTACKS IN DC AND MIAMI

On April 24, 2001 the Baltimore Sun and ABC News reported on a shocking, declassified Pentagon document, titled Operation Northwoods. In Operation Northwoods the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff called for hijacking jet airliners, attacking US military bases, blowing up US ships and wounding civilians in Miami, Florida and Washington, DC using paramilitary sniper teams. Page eight of the formerly Top Secret Pentagon plan stated that “casualty lists in US Newspapers would cause a helpful wave of national indignation.” The opening paragraph in the Baltimore Sun read “US leaders proposed in ’62 a secret plan to commit terrorist acts against Americans and blame Cuba to create a pretext for invasion.”

The Northwoods Document spells out the US Government's plan to frame innocent people for the shootings and bombings that the US Government was preparing to commit. Page 9 of the Northwoods Document states that after the Government carried out shootings and bombings in Washington DC that "the arrest of Cuban agents and the release of prepared documents substantiating Cuban involvement also would be helpful in projecting the idea of an irresponsible government." Now in 2002 they're telling us that they think that they have the two men responsible for the sniper shootings in DC. Can the government be trusted?

Forty years after the Northwoods plan was rejected by John F. Kennedy, we see striking similarities between the sniper attacks and the terrorist activities called for in the Northwoods plan. Whereas the Northwoods document planned to create a pretext for war with Cuba, the sniper attacks are being used as a pretext to put military on the streets of America and to push for gun control. Now, White House officials are saying that there’s a good chance that al-Qaeda or Iraq are behind the sniper attacks and are warning the American people to look for similar attacks in other cities, thus creating a timely pretext justifying military action to capture Middle Eastern and Central Asian oil supplies in a war with Iraq.
http://www.infowars.com/northwoods.htm

Now occult CODES the Al-Q supposidly use...might have meaning or not. For those of you into this type stuff, I ran across this on a board last night. [fair use discussion use only]

Assuming that the "duck in the noose"
phrase is symbolic of a pictogram; it may
have been a "go code" for terrorists.

Imagine a number 2 being drawn inside
the circle of the number 6 as a pictogram;

2 = Duck
6 = Noose
Duck In a Noose = 26

I saw this idea posted on the
Enterprisemission.com forums and
thought it would be relevant here.
Here's the decodings of 26;

26 = Oct 26th?

26 = 13+13 = Upper Fire Triangle +
Lower Water Triangle in Occult
symbolism = 2-dimensional double
tetrahedron = 3-dimensional double
tetrahedron = 39 Degrees between 19.5
N and 19.5 S which are the
hyperdimensional latitudes that are
created when a double tetrahedron is
placed inside of a sphere = 14 symmetry
spins of a tetrahedron = 7+7 then 77 in
inverse numerology = 39 Degrees N by
77 Degrees W = Latitude and Longitude
of Washington D.C.

26 = 2+6 = 8 = number of apexes on a 3-
dimensional double tetrahedron =
Washington D.C.(as described above).

According to the poster on the
Enterprisemission.com forum, even 9/11
had a pictogram used by the terrorists;

drum torch torch

drum = a drumstick hitting the right side
of a drum = 9(with a straight line on the 9
instead of the curve)

torch = 1

torch = 1

drum torch torch = 911

Apparently, Al-Qaeda has a history of
using pictograms for "go codes". We'll
see if tomorrow turns out to be an
interesting day.

Yours truly,


Dan Perez

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