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Date Posted: 02:09:28 08/20/04 Fri
Author: Mike K.
Subject: X fell victim to sin Y
In reply to: Grateful UBF Member 's message, "Re: Off Topic Board" on 15:54:17 08/19/04 Thu

For example, when we study how so and so fell prey to sin because they desired worldly goods, Iíll say that the issue is not in getting rid of all my material possessions, but the solution lies in where I place my values.

Please be cautious what UBF tells you about how things are.
Many times they introduce things which aren't real at all, many times imagining things to be in the Bible that aren't.

Who tells you that Peter had a "marriage problem"? (he was happily married - otherwise, how could he have a mother-in-law?) Who tells you that Jude ha a "material problem"? (after all, he WAS keeper of the disciple's finances!) Who tells you that Jesus solved the "sin problem" of Nicodemus?

All those stories come from UBF to tell you how much better you'll be off when you let UBF take care of your (many times) alleged problems.

Just because you want to marry doesn't mean you have a "desire problem", and just because you DON'T want to marry doesn't mean you have a "homosexuality problem" (those things were said in my chapter!).

Ah, and what's even more important, when they tell you that "Shepherd A was faithful, but he left to seek a worldly hedonistic lifestyle", then usually the real erason for that person leaving wasn't hedonism but a desire to live a healthy, fruitful Christian life in a NON-AUTHORITARIAN Christian church.

Or when they tell you that "Shepherd B was a bit weak, and a woman instigated his desire and so he left to fulfill the passions of the flesh", it very often means that the person really fell in love with someone and wouldn't accept it when the UBF shepherd demand that he cancel the relationship to get "married by faith" to a UBF missionary.

UBF has a way of saying "if you do not do what we tell you, you're falling into a sin trap". And then, the only way of being righteous would be absolute obedience - and it works best with people who have a REAL DESIRE to please God: they're too afraid to contradict their UBF shepherds because they don't want to "fall into sin".
But some times, obeying UBF leaders is a sin in and of itself - violating the conscience! (and since the conscience can very well be God's speaking to us, it might be a sin against the Holy Spirit: remember, sins against the Holy Spirit are beyond forgiveness!)

Please, never become pharisaic, we are all sinners, and when they tell you "X fell into sin Y", don't pray "Thank the Lord I'm not like X who sinned, but that I can stand righteously in front of you", but pray "Lord, forgive me, for I also have sinned, and I need your Forgiveness!", the Lord Himself gave us that pattern!

In Christ,
Mike K.

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