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Date Posted: 23:10:13 07/29/04 Thu
Author: Joe
Subject: Re: "Things have changed" article?
In reply to: Bong-Jin Kang 's message, "Re: "Things have changed" article?" on 19:46:27 07/29/04 Thu

>As I said on 8th,July's post, the Korean UBF top
>leader insisted many changes has occured since SL's

Thus John Jun just follows the pattern of other aberrant and cultic groups such as the ICC in insisting that "things have changed."

>He requested any present problems in ubf and any
>problems of SB if I want to argue with him further.

Again, Mr. Jun just follows the well-worn path trod by other leaders of other abusive groups. The past problems of UBF demand that Mr. Jun, Ms. Barry and others confess, apologize and make reparations, else step down in disgrace.

>It seems to me that any ubf centers around the world
>doesn't have any remarkable faults at present except
>that they don't want to have any discussions with its
>past problems.

What UBF centers around the world do you have intimate knowledge of, Bong-Jin?

>Below are my impressions of 2004 summer bible
>conference of snu3.ubf.or.kr(2004.7.21-7.24)
>There I heard many, many frank confessions of their
>past problems and there were so many tears among the
>participants including me.

Frank confessions of what specific UBF problems, Bong-Jin. Please, tell us. You have said in the past that your chapter has no real problems. Or were these frank confessions of "problems" only about people personal problems?

I look to the example of Henry Kriete for an example of actual frank confession and real determination to change. Do you know of a Henry Kriete in UBF, Bong-Jin?

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  • "We've changed, not that we needed to change." -- Joe, 12:54:18 08/03/04 Tue

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