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Date Posted: 06:50:02 06/23/04 Wed
Author: HCFAN
Subject: Re: NEW MEN'S LACROSSE COACH
In reply to: Observer 's message, "Re: NEW MEN'S LACROSSE COACH" on 01:34:11 06/23/04 Wed

I agree, we are at the bottom as long as Regan remains in the AD position, it's time for new direction. Why can't the administration see this?

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[> [> [> [> To Observer -- RecentGrad, 09:13:15 06/23/04 Wed

Observer: With all due respect (because I did enjoy your post), there are several factual and logical problems contained in your post. First off, you say "If a student is good enough to get in, he or she is also getting into an Ivy or NESCAC. HC or Harvard, Yale or Dartmouth, Middlebury, Williams, etc." This is just not the case. I played four years of lacrosse at HC. Senior year of high school I took official recruiting visits to Yale, Williams, Amherst, HC and Colgate. I didn't get into Yale and didn't like Amherst or Williams. My choice was between Colgate and HC and it was a no brainer. I agree that HC "is a fallback school for many students these days". Many of my classmates (and teammates) did not get into an Ivy and chose HC over a NESCAC school.

While I was at HC we had many recruits whom did not "get in" to HC. But we didn't lose the majorit of them to the Ivies or NESCAC. We lost them to Providence, Manhattan, Fairfield and Lafayette. I don't have a problem with that at all. Some of those are better lacrosse schools but they are not on par academically. Of course there are anecdotal examples of good students not getting in to HC for whatever reason but I can tell you flat out that Admissions has not significantly hurt the lacrosse team. I believe you'll have to look to Dick Regan and the Athletic Department if you want to assign blame.

I completely agree that "the travel arrangments were made by the AD not the coaching staff" (paraphrase). Completely unacceptable as far as I'm concerned.

You also post "If you belive HC can be a Top 20 team in 3 years, you really are not a fan of the game or probably never played at a high level." I don't even know where to start with this. I have played on and coached state championship high school lacrose teams. Above, I posted that I played at HC and I believe I have seen 200+ college lacrosse games in my life. And I completely stand by the statement that HC can be in the Top 20 in 3 years. The only PL teams NOT to be ranked in the Top 20 at some point in the last four years are Lafayette and HC. The PL schools are similar academically. We recruit more or less the same student-athletes. (95% of recruits/players I've met have had at least one other official visit to a PL school.) You can go 4-3 in the league and be ranked. Why do you believe HC is incapable of this?

You go on to list several of the top programs in the country and say that "to suggest this [HC] program can be on par with [these other programs] is pie in the sky." If we could compete with those programs (almost all of whom were in the NCAA tournament this past year) that would be great. But we don't even have to set our sights that high. Navy is the only PL team that can compete with those schools. How about going 5-2 or 4-3 in league play, beating one or two Ivies in non-league games and making the NCAA tournament. Totally realistic and should be a 3-5 year goal of the program. To suggest that we should play in the MAAC with Siena, Marist and Manhattan is insane. Why would we voluntarily downgrade (both academically and athletically) our conference affiliation?

Now to the part that we both agree upon. The Athetic Department is dysfunctional. Regan has to go. Money is part of the problem (HC has the smallest lacrosse budget in the PL) but it is not the only (or biggest) problem. In my time at HC I saw lacrosse players shoveling a snow-covered field before a game and driving themselves to several away games (versus UMass and University of Hartford). Way to run a Division I program in one of the most competitive conferences in the country. Dick Regan is a clown.

I'm out.

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