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Date Posted: 12:57:24 06/23/04 Wed
Author: kesiwick
Subject: Re: Read it and weep
In reply to: STATMAN 's message, "Read it and weep" on 12:34:55 06/23/04 Wed

Princeton Review "selectivity rating" on a scale of 0-100 follows:

West Point -- 99
Annopolis -- 99
Colgate -- 95
Holy Cross -- 92
Bucknell -- 91
Lehigh -- 88
Lafayette - 86

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[> [> [> [> [> Re: Read it and weep -- XSader, 13:00:29 06/23/04 Wed

However, as per the same website...HC's admissions selectivity rating is a 93, placing us well above schools like Bucknell, Lehigh, and Lafayette. The ratio of applications to admitted students is not necessarily indicative of how difficult it is to get into a particular college.

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[> [> [> [> [> [> My two cents -- 2003 Grad, 13:46:23 06/23/04 Wed

It is pretty pathetic when grown men are debating the superiority of Patriot League schools. These schools are ALL excellent and offer different opportunities for everybody. Only a na�ve person would base their college selection on a college ranking. While one school might be 20 and another is 9, does that mean that the higher ranked school is necessarily better for all prospective students. On the other hand, if one is to rely solely on rankings, is a school that is ranked 5, 6 or 10 places higher then another school �better�. It is necessary to research what criteria is weighted most heavily when using multiple ranking guides. To be honest I personally believe that Holy Cross, like many other Catholic schools, is poorly ranked by the US News due to the weight given to �peer assessment rank� and �financial resources rank�. While we have improved in the latter of the two criteria, like other catholic schools we are not assessed as highly as we deserve by our �peers�. This is evident by the fact that every year we rank in the top five in graduation rank while our �predicted graduation rank� (as determined by the guide) is around 10% lower. I only know this in detail due to a paper that I wrote in a sociology course at HC involving a similar topic.

In the end though, all these facts, data and rankings are really not what is important. The main criteria to the superiority of a college is whether you can say that you graduated from a school with great memories, great friends, and with a sense of pride and much confidence as you take your next steps in life.

Oh yeah�if some one going to through stats at me regarding HC I just tell them to look up Barrons Top 50 Colleges Guide (Lib Arts and University)�only PL schools with rep��gate and the cross

I still say the ranking should be based on the female student population though�I would have gone to UT

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[> [> [> [> [> [> [> Re: My two cents -- BeatBC, 14:18:24 06/23/04 Wed

I agree with '2003 Grad' - this bickering about the quality of different schools is tiresome to read and spectacularly uninformative. While I always proclaim Holy Cross as the best college in the country, I do so openly acknowledging my bias and without bad mouthing other schools...except, of course, BC, on which any right-thinking person would agree...
We had some decent Lacrosse teams in the '80's and I believe we can improve again. The sudden high-profile of Patriot League Lacrosse (this was Navy's 1st year in the league) and the fact that they included the Lacrosse program in the new athletic fund-raising scheme are good signs.

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[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Re: My two cents -- STATMAN, 16:10:07 06/23/04 Wed

Sorry for provoking a Patriot League debate. "THERE ARE PLENTY OF LACROSSE PLAYERS WITH THE ACADEMIC GOODS NECESSARY TO GET INTO HOLY CROSS!" was the key point of the paragraph in the first e-mail. I'm not trying to judge whether our school is any better or worse than our peer group. Those schools get lacrosse players admitted....8-10 a year.....we should be able to as well. It just takes an organized and dedicated effort.

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