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Date Posted: 07:31:06 06/24/04 Thu
Author: laxalum
Subject: Re: NEW MEN'S LACROSSE COACH
In reply to: STATMAN 's message, "Re: NEW MEN'S LACROSSE COACH" on 10:57:12 06/23/04 Wed

STATMAN,

I disagree with you statement that many players of the top players just showed up at Holy Cross.

While I was there we had the likes of Brian Hodgdon - Goalie, who was Coach McCaff's first recruit upon taking the job in January 2000. Hodgie went on to become the 2nd best goalie in HC history. He was Academic All-New England, played in the NE Senior All-Star game and, the Warrior Lacrosse Challenge game which is a game between the Top 33 college players in the country.

Also recruited were Edmond Yip, a High School All-American out of Moses Brown and Choate. He has done nothing but win the teams Defensive Player of the Year each year since arriving on the hill. Billy Klotz, another High School All-American out of Pinkerton Academy in NH. Billy was named Rookie of the Week and Player of the Week by the Patriot League his Freshman year and has been one of the team point leaders the last two. Mike McKee out of the Lawrenceville School and Suffern, NY. Did not get into Harvard so he came to Worcester. Great compliment to Klotz on attack and will challenge the all-time assist totals by the time he finishes next spring. Other recruits of note in my time were Greg Kelly, Dan Atchinson, Rich Espinal, Pat Sullivan, Derek Lemley, Tanner Fogarty, Joe Drum, Pat McCurdy, John O'Sullivan....Some good players always show up at the last minute, too. Coach McCaff alway has open tryouts in the fall to evaluate these players. Each year he would keep a couple and for the most part they panned out.

The best HS players are NOT coming to HC. We seem to attract the 2nd and 3rd line players from good programs that saw very little pt in HS. The top notch, impact type players never looked at us - why would they? So they could shovel the turf and buy their own equipment?

Granted, Coach did not always get the kids he brought on campus in the fall, but that is where the program is at this point. It's a very hard sell when these very same recruits go to other PL schools and have to listen to other coaches question the commitment of HC to the sport of lacrosse. This happened to me at two PL schools when I mentioned that I would also be visiting HC.

The bottom line is Coach McCaff and Coach O received very little help from the Regan or others in the administration. There is only so far those guys could have lugged the mail by themselves and I think they did, not doubt.

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[> [> [> [> Re: NEW MEN'S LACROSSE COACH -- Rick, 08:54:04 06/24/04 Thu

" Mike McKee out of the Lawrenceville School and Suffern, NY. Did not get into Harvard so he came to Worcester. "

That might be the first time I've ever heard of a Lawrenceville grad not being accepted to Harvard. Do you know if he applied/was accepted to any other Ivy schools ?

$26,000 per at Lawrenceville with a campus/facilities/endowment better than many colleges/universities....grads are usually headed Ivy, UVA, Duke, Wake Forest, Rice, Michigan or Northwestern.

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[> [> [> [> Recruiting -- PROTON, 13:10:00 06/24/04 Thu

I'm not sure which of you is right, but five of the six top scorers this year were not recruited...just ask 'em. Some of those "recruits" you listed were not recruited. Some of those "notables" you listed were substitutes, and according to available stats, did not play in many games. I think it's fair to say, for whatever reason, that recruiting, and depth, is an issue for this program. Hopefully that will change with the arrival of the new coach.

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[> [> [> [> [> Re: Recruiting -- brine, 13:59:21 06/24/04 Thu

Not only were 5 of the top 6 scorers not recruited, in most cases their efforts to get on Mccafrey's radar screen were ignored. Once these athletes made the team and were successful, he claimed them as his recruits when in fact he did nothing to get them into the school. They each got in on their own with no help from Mccafrey so the notion that admissions is the problem is simply not true. He routinely missed or was late to meetings with recruits and their families this past fall. Additionally, the school has changed its fund raising protocols to allow restricted gifts to lacrosse. Over $100,000 has been pledged in this effort. 1-30 record in the Patriot League during his 5 years was simply not acceptable. If Mccafrey was so frustrated by his relationship with admissions and the AD, why didn't he leave to pursue his considerable talents elsewhere? The school has made a change. We are moving forward and doing what needs to be done to have a successful program for the school and our lax athletes. The hiring of Coach Pascal is the 1st step.

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[> [> [> [> [> Re: Recruiting -- brine, 14:00:52 06/24/04 Thu

Not only were 5 of the top 6 scorers not recruited, in most cases their efforts to get on Mccafrey's radar screen were ignored. Once these athletes made the team and were successful, he claimed them as his recruits when in fact he did nothing to get them into the school. They each got in on their own with no help from Mccafrey so the notion that admissions is the problem is simply not true. He routinely missed or was late to meetings with recruits and their families this past fall. Additionally, the school has changed its fund raising protocols to allow restricted gifts to lacrosse. Over $100,000 has been pledged in this effort. 1-30 record in the Patriot League during his 5 years was simply not acceptable. If Mccafrey was so frustrated by his relationship with admissions and the AD, why didn't he leave to pursue his considerable talents elsewhere? The school has made a change. We are moving forward and doing what needs to be done to have a successful program for the school and our lax athletes. The hiring of Coach Pascal is the 1st step.

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