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Date Posted: 12:28:09 06/25/04 Fri
Author: GardenState
Subject: Re: Look to NJ/Rick - '64
In reply to: Rick 's message, "Re: Look to NJ/Rick - '64" on 11:28:27 06/25/04 Fri

Delbarton publishes their list: 10-12 kids each year to BC, Georgetown and Villanova. 5-6 to Notre Dame. 10-12 each year to Colgate as well, but not many to other Patriot League schools. Actually, not many to Duke. Lots to NESCAC and Ivies. Only 2-3 per year to Holy Cross. Would appear to be either lack of student interest, or lack of relationship with guidance.

Notice on the Holy Cross roster that there are some New Jersey kids, but no kids following behind them from their respective schools. That says something. It would seem that NJ Parochial schools would be logical feeders to HC lacrosse. NJ kids have been contacted by Holy Cross coaches on the basis of summer camps. There has not been consistent follow-up. Part of the problem.

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[> [> [> Re: Look to NJ/Rick - '64 -- hcfAN, 16:23:18 06/25/04 Fri

I can't believe I'm responding to you, but....

1. Delbarton-HC pipleine is very strong in general. Average at least 4/5 kids per class. At least 10 Delbarton lacrosse players at HC over past 7-8 years.
2. NJ HS hockey stinks compared to NE Preps and Canada. Doria and Reinhardt have been the best players in the state and we've gotten them. Probably only 2/3 kids per year at best from NJ public/Catholics that can play at HC, and not all can get in.
3. How do either of you have any idea how much HC coaches follow up in a given year? Just because there aren't always kids the class after from the same school. Weak.

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[> [> [> [> To: hcfAN -- Rick, 18:01:40 06/25/04 Fri

I can't either.

" 1. Delbarton-HC pipleine is very strong in general. Average at least 4/5 kids per class. At least 10 Delbarton lacrosse players at HC over past 7-8 years. "

3 Delbarton students entered HC in 2003.

There's ONE Delbarton kid on the most recent lacrosse roster - and he's a frosh. Where are all these 10 Delbarton players over the past 4 years of your 'past 7-8 years' ?

" 2. NJ HS hockey stinks compared to NE Preps and Canada. Doria and Reinhardt have been the best players in the state and we've gotten them. Probably only 2/3 kids per year at best from NJ public/Catholics that can play at HC, and not all can get in. "

You might wanna do some homework next time around.

Some web searching shows that Debarton and Seton Hall Prep have been consistantly defeating Fairfield Prep, LaSalle (RI), Mt. Saint Charles ( RI ), St. Thomas Aquinas ( NH ), Concord ( NH ), Centennial Regional ( Quebec ) and Xaverian Brothers ( MA ) ON THE ROAD over the past few seasons.

Oh and Rheinhardt from Delbarton and Doria from SHP going direct to HC - that's somewhat unusual. Many of NJ's top hockey kids either skip their senior year or, after graduating, head to one of the PG Prep schools in Connecticut for a year or two to polish their games.

Oh again....the day a kid - any kid - from Delbarton can't get into Holy Cross will be a long time coming.

" 3. How do either of you have any idea how much HC coaches follow up in a given year? Just because there aren't always kids the class after from the same school. Weak. "

Speaking only for myself, I don't....which is why I asked about recruiting.

Delbarton, Seton Hall Prep and CBA have been the dominant hockey programs in New Jersey going on TWENTY + years. They seem to take turns winning the overall state championship every year. The lone consistant challenger to their collective dominance over the years has been Brick HS, a public school.

All annually have players graduating capable of playing regular shifts for HC.

In lacrosse, Delbarton has been ranked either #1 or #2 annually for AT LEAST the past several seasons. As mentioned above, CBA has an excellent program as do Mountain Lakes and Ridgewood - two public schools with highly regarded academic reps.

Does HC recruit these schools ?

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