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Re: ECAC Hockey ..more -- kesiwick, 09:28:08 07/19/04 Mon
now is the time to move to a top-notch league -- we blew it -- the next shoe to drop will likely be Coach Pearl moving on and the program will fall back into obscurity -- nice work on the Hill -- perhaps an enterprising reporter will someday do a long piece on how Holy Cross got flanked by BC to get the "Duke of New England" moniker -- pathetic
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Re: to pitt65 -- NTKHC64, 09:32:58 07/19/04 Mon
People have their views and we'll see what develops. As I see it, those who made the judgment felt that the $500,000 needed would yield a better return when spent other than for hockey. Interestingly, despite the many exhortations to contact Development, inter alia, that office has received no calls on this issue as of 10 minutes ago.
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Re: to pitt65 -- utter embarassment, 09:39:12 07/19/04 Mon
they probably haven't heard from anyone because no one outside of this board gives a damn about HC athletics -- they used to but not anymore -- and the HC admin makes little effort to keep people informed -- no one knows about the "matching" program where one can give to general fund and a specific sport let alone what's going on with our admissions' statistics
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NTK...development question -- HC1843, 10:08:17 07/19/04 Mon
have you in your conversation(s) w/development inquired at all to the two year below 50% contribution level and their thoughts on that? Obviously, development has tinkered to make it still look like we are hitting the number, but are they not concerned by this trend and what looks to be a drop off, even if slight, in young alumni giving?
As to the comment on the $500k being better spent elsewhere, do you know if there were/are specific areas they were/are thinking about? To what degree did the decision-makers contemplate a medium- to long-term ROI that would compensate for the short-term loss? To what degree did the decision-makers contemplate the affect of increased national exposure in bringing in a more diverse (in any sense of the term) student body, or purely increasing apps to get them to the sub-40% acceptance target that has been discussed on this board? In your opinion, outside of basketball and/or football does anyone care or have a vision? If this were a soccer decision, would Regan have fought harder for a sport that he publicly acknowledges his unabashed love for...would the monetary equation have changed?
Obviously many more questions than you have answers to, but I can't help but tp come to the conclusion that our admin screwed up b/c of short-sightedness/lack of vision, and, as others have pointed out, the concept that our name will carry the day. However, our inability to commit to sports success outside of bball and fball is actually the connotation that our name now carries. The ECAC decision has only cemented that image for those outside of the inward looking Cross admin.
Cheers.
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Re: NTK...development answer(s) to 1843 -- NTKHC64, 10:25:16 07/19/04 Mon
I have discussed or been privy to discussions with more than one person in Development. I haven't asked why they feel the response is under 50%. Personally, I doubt they could do more than speculate without some sort of polling of the alumni base. As to your noting of the change in the number of alumni, I have been told that it is a common (and allowable) practice in development to adjust the base by removing deceased alumni/ae, individuals who become "lost" (i.e., no mailable address), and individuals who asked to be removed from the mailing lists. If an individual can't be solicited for any of the above three reasons, this person can be removed from the base. Development may have had more adjustments this year, although the base, in fact, increased. If this happened, it was probably because in hiring a company to help reach individuals who have never made a gift since graduation, Development obtained information that led to the removal of names from the base for one of the above three mentioned reasons.
As to paragraph 2, I can only provide faculty compensation as one of the alternatives and I know of no others. As for the soccer stadium, I was led to believe that there would be word on this early July but it hasn't been forthcoming and I don't know what that means. Obviously I can't read the minds of the decision-makers. I try to give you the facts as they are made known to me but I do not profess to know everything...far from it. As for my opinion about "vision" I'd need to spend a lot of time on the Hill to be able to give you an answer. I hope this helps.
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Thanks for the reply NTK. -- HC1843, 10:28:40 07/19/04 Mon
Cheers.
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