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Date Posted: 15:32:19 07/14/04 Wed
Author: HCsader2207
Subject: Re: All is not lost
In reply to: JRGNYR 's message, "Re: All is not lost" on 15:11:41 07/14/04 Wed

Completely agree that the responsiblity of what happened in the 70s and 80s lies with HC. My point is that the IVY league sold Father Brooks and others a model of the "true spirit of college athletics" and in bowing to the pressure and attempting to follow the mold of the Ivies we tried to become something we were, and are, never capable of becoming. We will never be truly accepted among the "old boys" of the Ivy league because we are a jesuit college, and it is just frustrating that between a school whos had a storied athletic tradition with many ecac schools and Quinn., a school with none, we got slapped in the face, with the "conditional" clause. Maybe Quinnipiac too should have been given a "conditional on you actually displaying the funds to build an arena" clause.

I am not blaming the Ivies for the state of HC athletics I am simply saying that this decision defies commons sense and reason on their part, reagardless of past relationships HC should have had the upper hand, and factoring in those traditions it should have been unanimous (among the ivies at least).

...and this makes me believe even more that Regan just simply does not represent HC in the way it deserves. He should be gone.

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[> [> [> [> Re: All is not lost -- JRGNYR, 15:44:54 07/14/04 Wed

I agree with you that Brooks bought into something that was ultimately going to fail.

As far as HC's tradition and being affiliated with the Ivies...that most likely did help HC's application, but I didn't think that would have been enough to get HC an invitation, and clearly it wasn't. It could not have hurt, but again I think anybody who thought HC could charm their way into the ECAC simply based on its relationship with the Ivies was deluding themselves.

I know this isn't a popular sentiment on the board right now, but the ECAC did make the right decision based on hockey reasons. Somebody rightly pointed out on the USCHO.com board, I think, that the ECAC doesn't need another institution to boost its academic profile.

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[> [> [> [> [> Re: All is not lost -- HCsader2207, 15:53:54 07/14/04 Wed

I do not pretend to be a Hockey expert so...
is Quinnipiac really that much better of a hockey program than HC to boost the hockey profile of the ECAC, while taking the acknowledged hit in acadamic affiliation?

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[> [> [> [> [> [> Re: All is not lost -- JRGNYR, 16:11:57 07/14/04 Wed

With scholarships, QU's potential to have an impact on ECAC in a hockey sense is larger than HC's.

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[> [> [> [> [> [> [> Re: All is not lost -- zipp, 16:15:45 07/14/04 Wed

I'd argue that a QU program already with scholarships(10) has far less potential than a HC progam going from AH with no scholarships to ECAC with scholarships.

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